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Well At least im funny. I cant belive you guys write atheist republic and send pics in. Social media is like the ultimate egoTastic! I myself even got one of those electronic mail adresssess
I don't think you are smart enough to know what a proof entails. (Here I define "proof" to mean evidence and reasoning that establishes a claim beyond a reasonable doubt.)
You're just wasting our time. Many atheists have already (as Christians) taken the "test" only to later awaken and throw off the superstition. Why don't you present your "proof" to a nice tree somewhere?
neophyte:
After listing your steps above , you left out the most important part: Be a gullible fool! Be open minded enough that your brains fall out. Most of all, be a primate pretending it is a sheep.
What is this , gang up on poor neo
Ya know , , there are Doctors and scientists in church on sundays , as well as at home watching tv , both groups happy to be there
Surely you must be aware; that otherwise smart people do stupid shit.
What does that have to do with you or us? The Christian narrative is corrupt. Nothing more than glorified human sacrifice empowered by political tyranny.
Im just sayin, i dont feel the issue is intelligence divided, similar smarts on each side , head shrinker here on this side, other end gets the proctologist,
What does that mean, the christian narrative corrupt, , human sacrifice? Political tyranny. , what, u still mad bru, , seriously tho idk wher this is comin from .
Ive heard from muslims the (new testamnt) injeel is corrupt, im thinking you mean the whole bible., probably any text im thinkn . It doesnt matter how many ratty copies they find which are verbatim to todays books, its never enuf,
God never commanded anyone to condone human sacrifice or instill that. He may have tested abraham, but thats it.
Good old fashioned animal blood was the order of the day, , you know whats grey and comes in pints , Elephant, right after hes been cut , jk they didnt bleed and sacrice elephants... lambs , bulls were more the order of the day ,
Alot of the 'bad guys' in the bible , did human sacrifices. Those old names like Baal are still around , the old practices have not stopped and you best believe there are babies still burnt alive to Moloch. Probably in bohemian grove in that 40ft moloch oven they made. Who knows. Im not sure which government empowered human sacrifice, the romans? Or as i like to call them , the italians.,? Yea idk.
The whole thing is centered around human sacrifice... What do you call the whole Jesus died for your sins narrative?
That's a fallacious appeal to authority. Did you know religiosity in the most elite well educated scientists is exactly the opposite of the general population in the USA?
Atheism is roughly 4% in the general population but almost 96% in the elite National Academy Of Science.
Try this, do any of those scientists in church have any scientific evidence for their belief a deity is real?
Since the answer is quite demonstrably no then their scientific credentials are irrelevant to their beliefs and you made a fallacious appeal to authority.
And I can prove I have garden fairies living in my soil; come look at my beautiful tomatoes.
That is just an appeal to faith.
Appeal to Faith. Description: This is an abandonment of reason in an argument and a call to faith, usually when reason clearly leads to disproving the conclusion of an argument. It is the assertion that one must have (the right kind of) faith in order to understand the argument.
Dave, i only tried to make a few real points , but 1 was definitly a simple minute of humble prayer , which u kno u understand , maybe refuse but whatever.
You never said how this evidences a deity though? Since different theists make this claim for different deities how can you demonstrate your experience is evidence for a deity and theirs is not? I'm inclined to be dubious about all claims for which no objective evidence can be demonstrated.
Can you demonstrate any objective evidence? Only I have asked several times now.
Sheldon,
Don't hold your breath! I don't think neophyte has a clue about objective evidence. Anyway, it's pretty hard to have a meaningful discussion with a mushroom.
@ neophyte
"but 1 was definitly a simple minute of humble prayer , which u kno u understand , maybe refuse but whatever."
Dude, that doesn't make any sense.
At the beginning of this thread your grammar was reasonable and although the concepts were whacko, at least lucid. But as this thread has evolved, your comments follow the pattern of someone who's brain activities are degenerating.
neophyte
are you comedian if not then you have to try it you have some natural talent
Y'all guys help me out here. I must be retarded. I cannot figure out what the hell neophyte is saying. I have read this thread twice, but I just cannot understand his speech.
Have I lost my intellect or something?
rmfr
@ arakish
Nah mate, I think you have to expand the credulity factor in your brain by watching hallmark movies and youtube christian channels for several months on end.
Drink nothing but cheap alcohol and fizzy drinks and eat copious amounts of KFC and pizza whilst attending your heavy lifting occupation.
Note: Pabst or Schlitz can be substituted for nonalcoholic sugary drinks.
After a few years of this regime you should be able to read neophyte's posts without recoiling in actual physical pain.
arakish,
Not to worry. That confusing sound that you are trying to make sense out of is just a mushroom being munched on by a noisy bug!
Sadly his hubris is nothing we've not seen before. He's making grandiose claims for proof in the thread title, but doesn't seem to know what objective evidence is let alone proof. He's offering the usual subjective claims and anecdotes we've seen a thousand times before.
@neo
What a bunch of horseshit.
You said it is easy to prove god yet you didn't even try. All you did was post a bunch of bullshit unsubstantiated crap and a worthless YouTube video.
You don't don't know what PROOF is. You don't know a damn thing about atheists. People like you make me sick. It's sad how fucking stupid and ignorant you are!
I have heard and read everything that you posted before. I HAVE stood in front of a congregation and asked the christian god to reveal himself. I have privately prayed to the christian god. Nothing, crickets, no god. Don't hand me this crap. I am tired of this lame bullshit from people like you. THEN, you go on to PROVE you don't know shit about children being molested or prostitution. You don't even know who the fucking victims are!
This can't possibly work because Matthew 4:5-7 states to "never test god" which is exactly what you are telling us to do. You're making a complete fool of yourself and I really hope you quit wasting your own time with this nonsense.
Actually that whole Matthew 4:5-7 is nothing more than Jesus proving he was NEVER the son of a sky-faerie. Why do you think he said "You shall not tempt the Lord thy God"? He knew if he cast himself off the pinnacle, there would be NO angels to save him, thus
SPLAT!
rmfr
I can't tell of you were correcting me or agreeing with me, and what you were talking about. Care to rephrase?
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I was neither correcting you nor agreeing with you. I was just stipulating that Jesus was as fake as any other flim-flam man.
"Care to rephrase?" How about a little clarification instead?
In my honest opinion, the Bible is nothing more than a collection of plagiarized faerie tales with quite a bit of embellishment (lies). EVERY story in it is plagiarized from some older fable, myth, legend, faerie tale, etc. I may not have found hard empirical evidence of ALL biblical stories having been plagiarized, but every last bible story I have ever investigated and dug up hard empirical evidence is usually a retelling of a previous, much older myth.
Just to list a couple:
The Noahacian Flood Story is nothing more than a retelling of the Epic of Gilgamesh (c. 2100 BCE) that was written almost 700 years before Genesis (c. 1440 BCE) was written. And there are "flood myths" that date back to almost 3000 BCE.
The Book of Leviticus is an exact word-for-word retelling of the Laws of Hammurabi (with a few extra laws thrown in) that was written about 300 to 400 years before Leviticus was written.
The Exodus Story never happened. There is absolutely NO evidence it ever did.
I ain't going into any details, you can research such for yourself. A lot of research from the above three, I have included in a book I am currently writing which has the working title, Riding Some Wild Tangents. Essentially, it is a collection of such research, rationalistic rantings, memes I have collected over the last 45+ years, and some debates I have had with Absolutists. I am also going to see about publishing it here at AR for free. Although I could possibly sell it, that is not my intention.
Thus, all I was saying was that Matthew 4:5-7 was nothing more than proof that Jesus was a flim-flam man because instead of proving Satan was correct when he stated, "...for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone." Jesus copped-out by stating, "It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God."
Jesus knew if he were to jump, then SPLAT! Thus, he bullshitted Satan. He lied. Or I should say the writer of Matthew told a pile of horse hoowhee. As far as I am concerned, the ONLY good part of the Bible is Matthew 5. That is perhaps one of greatest behavioural treatises I have seen to date.
Basically, all I was stating is that you CAN test the veracity of a supernatural super-being who has ultimate-power, ultimate-knowledge, and ultimate-goodness. Although I beg to differ on the ultimate-goodness...
Did you notice I did not click the "reply" button to your post, as I did here? I was just making a statement.
Anyway, sorry if my post was confusing. I was just making "my" statement, neither correcting nor agreeing.
I apologize for any confusion. I am sorry.
And to the rest of y'all, sorry for the little bit of ranting. As my book's title states, my mind tends to go off on some wild tangents.
rmfr
P.S. - FYI
BCE = Before Common Era (used to be just BC)
CE = Common Era (used to be AD)
And only the Christians still use the BC/AD thing. Us scientists use the BCE/CE thing...
Ohh I understand now, rock on :) I just might pick up your book. Do youh ave an eta on when it'll be released?
First, sorry Stu. K., but did not see your post until I was already in the field at work during lunch break on Saturday. Cannot stand trying to post with a phone. Screen is too damned small. And I do not have any other computer except my monster AT tower I built. Yes, I am one of those exceptions who does not possess a PADD or notebook.
As for ETA for publishing, actually, not really. I am still in the process of combing through all the DVDs of backed up data to find some of my older rantings from up to 40+ years ago. Additionally, I tend to type in my "wild tangents" as they hit in a text editor program. Essentially, I was planning on publishing when I hit 100+/- pages. Then just keep updating as needed.
Anyway, here is an 11 or 12 page primer: Dropbox.
Forewarning: If you are a devoutly religious person, especially Christian, who is offended by "atheist" viewpoints, then this book is NOT for you. I do intentionally state some rather offensive arguments against ALL religions. And, I do specifically focus on the Christian faith due to my childhood having been forced to attend churches in the worst part of the Baptist Bible Belt. The most offensive problem I had growing up was the methods those damned Christians used to force their religion onto us children. If it had not been for my father, I would have succumbed until I sounded as idiotic as you damned Christians. And you only have yourselves to blame. However, if you have the balls, continue reading. Your eyes may finally be opened. Additionally, if you find "curse" words offensive, whether religious or not, then perhaps you should not read this document.
rmfr
arakish,
In your book where you discuss the exodus story you overlooked the real fact that the Egyptians conquered and occupied the Levant all the way to the Tigris River. The Israelites didn't leave Egypt; Egypt left the Israelites.
Diotrephes
Thanks for the reminder. What you read about the Exodus was the result of a "brain fart" where I spewed out what came to mind in a ten minute puke fest. I am still collecting all my previous rantings as I find them on a few hundred backup DVDs.
Again thanks for the reminder. I do know there is more info I am planning on including.
rmfr
@arakish
that looks awesome I'm waiting for it
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