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@ Old Man
"you have to expand the credulity factor in your brain by watching hallmark movies and youtube christian channels for several months on end..."
Depart from me thy worker of iniquity! Where is that exorcism handbook.
Actually, Oh! Is that all it takes? Boy talking about torture...
rmfr
You can doubt whether I am a moral authority, but when an ideology places most of its emphasis on the existence of a being, you should know it is rotten.
Frankly, I think this post is why people think all Christians are uneducated wide eyed believers. These are not ways to prove God exists, this is emotionalism bridged from the charismatic movement, which is not true Christianity. I am a Christian myself, and the proof for God is not because you have a special feeling, and you did not elaborate on the text of the Bible. The Bible is a historical document, wether or not you choose to believe the things in the Bible are true, (Miracles, Healing, ect.) But any worthwhile scholar will tell you that the Bible is a historical document, and the places, people, and things mentioned actually happened. Now as a Christian I choose to believe that since the events and people and historical properties in the Bible are true, then the other things in the Bible are true as well, such as the reason Jesus Christ was on the Earth, ( to die for salvation, ect) and therefore, I also hold to the belief that what Jesus said was true about life, death, morality, all of that to be true as well. So all this to say that you cannot base the existence for God on something as weak and emotional as a "spiritual phone call." If you have read the Bible, it says nothing about a "spiritual phone call" believe it or not, and this is a completely uneducated attempt to reveal the fact that God exists. I would reccommend studying the historical context of the Bible, as well as reading the Bible itself, so that you can be able to come up with an educated argument for your faith rather than selecting verses and trying to make them fit. Again, i am also a christian, so this is not to demean, but simply to make the point that this blind emotionalism is not what I believe, and this is not a proper representation of what the leading scholars and Biblical theologians believe.
@wellsfargo78
Some historical accounts are true. Some are exaggerated. Some never happened! It's a pretty weak reed you are leaning on!
Oh BULLSHIT WellsFargo
The bible is not a historical document as it isn't fact nor can it be construed as fact. Also, historical documents aren't continually edited to fit a narrative. There is no "educated" argument for the existence of god or any god.
wellsfargo78,
"The Bible is a historical document, wether or not you choose to believe the things in the Bible are true, (Miracles, Healing, ect.)"
So, a million man army marched all the way from Ethiopia to Judea and then got defeated.
2 Chronicles 14:9 (NKJV) = "Then Zerah the Ethiopian came out against them with an army of a million men and three hundred chariots, and he came to Mareshah."
Zerah should have led the Israelites instead of Moses. It didn't take him 40 years to get to his destination.
Diotrephes,
Don't forget about the 2-3 million Hebrews (based on the number of fighting men given) that marched into the Sinai and hung out there for 40 years, mostly at one location. When Israel seized that area for a time archaeologists leaped at the opportunity to dig up the place. They found precisely nothing! Actually, I think a sandal was found that belonged to some ice-age traveler. Now, you'd think that graves, lost metal items, cattle bones, and all kinds of things would have turned up by the bushel. One wonders how this population, comparable to Los Angeles a few years ago, provisioned such numbers, including sheep and cattle. And, then, there's the little matter of getting water for 3 million people and their cattle and sheep. There would have been massive construction for that time period. I mean, if you live in one spot for 40 years you would use brick and stone.
Then there is the little story about Joshua conquering Canaan and slaughtering people right and left, thus winning the land for the Israelites. NOT! Archaeologists are now in pretty solid agreement that there never was such a conquest, that the Israelites originated as an off-shoot from other Canaanites and assumed their identity in the highlands.
There is only a narrow time slot (if that) where a weakened Egypt fit in with the Exodus story. Unfortunately, that means that Jericho's walls were long down before Joshua even arrived! At most there were only a few itinerant occupiers. And, Ai and some of the other "conquered" cities were non-existent! Yes, we do have some "interesting" history in the Bible.
Greensnake,
"Yes, we do have some "interesting" history in the Bible."
The early history is pure BS. They hi-jacked the Egyptian conquest of the Levant and made it into their own story. The later history about the Persians and Seleucids is slightly more reasonable.
And don't forget that the original several million children of Israel that left Egypt all died before they reached the Promise Land. God was so pissed over the events surrounding the revealing of the ten commandments, ie the golden calf incident, that he ensured that everyone of those who crossed the Red Sea, (with a few exceptions only, like Joshua - needed for the serious genocide ahead) died before getting home. So there should be several million graves out there somewhere in some sort of line following the path of the wandering. No such thing was found.
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