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Please everything you just said, to a psychiatrist in your area. Please.
@ Johan
"If it was from your brain then you would have been able to choose what to feel and how long and when etc."
The brain reacts to stimulus, and then sends signals out to the body. In some cases, we have no control over those reactions. For example, if you trip, you will extend your arms to protect yourself, without any conscious thought. When I used to scare aunt Alice, she always peed a little bit. You truly frighten a person, the rush of adrenaline pumps them up like Superman for a moment. I was once walking through a fenced area where a farmer kept his stud stallion. I heard him coming hard, and do not remember the next five seconds. But I wound up twenty feet up a tree that on casual inspection, seemed almost impossible to climb.
Umm, the brain is part of a human, neither controls the other, they are one and the same.
@David Killens
Seems you agree that feelings actually rule the brain. And it overrules logical thinking. As witnessed in those controlled by love or anger. And in our present situation fear is witnessed in actually being in control of economy's and not logical thinking. Creating a total unsustainable lifestyle that has the power to kill everybody if kept in place.
@White: Not "dipshit?" Well, fuck me..... there I go again.
Don't worry. You will learn to Live.
Welcome to Atheist republic Johan. I hope we can learn from each other.
Your tale saddens me because you attribute love to your god, and ignore that simple fact that those positive emotions come from inside you, unassisted. Religion strips away a person's self-worth and independence. This is a very good example, where a person truly believes he is a lesser person without his god.
I am an athiest, and also experience love. For me it is powerful and all-consuming. Can you please explain the difference in what I experience and you? Or is there any difference?
Thanks for your welcoming. This is the heart of it all. The quality of our Relationships. And just introducing ourselves. Telling one another who we are, where we come from and what we enjoy in life.
I agree with you. We all experience feelings. And the feelings of love also as you mentioned. This is human life. Experiencing all different feelings. Love, anger, resentment, irritation, stress, fear, anxiety etc.
The Feelings of God is different. They are Love, Peace, Joy, Empathy, Friendliness, Excitement, Humbleness, Glory, Power, Wisdom. And they are always there. Not linked to situation to situation. Not different towards someone acting badly towards you or acting good towards you. The reason for this is because He sees us all as His Child Jesus. The Perfect Child. And therefor His Love is Perfect towards all. Because He gave birth to all as Jesus. And you will know that there is a strong Love between a father and his child. Because if it being born of him. You cannot really compare this love with the love for a friend that play golf with you or maybe someone that just bumped into your car and trying to put the blame on you.
When we get born of God then we get born into His Character of course. So the positive Emotion of God in all being His Children is now in us too. Therefor I can never attempt to say it is my Ability when someone beat me up and I still experience Love towards him. I will just make myself a liar. So this is just being Humble.
@Johan “...God then we get born into His Character of course. “
Hmmm...and you believe the bible (other post by you)
Hmmmm...and you agreed with Cogs scriptural posts about God being an asshole....
Hmmmmmmm....and you are god with your children, Jesus, and you are also the mother...
Hmmmmmmmmmmm...KIDS!!!! Don’t drink the KOOL AID!!! Jeremiah 9:15
“ Therefore this is what the LORD Almighty, the God of Israel, says: "See, I will make this people eat bitter food and drink poisoned water.”
Yep. God made Adam and Eve hide from Him.
Gen. 3
8 And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God amongst the trees of the garden.
That is what you get when you are doing wrong. But it is always the result of your own wrongs.
Jeremiah 2
19 Thine own wickedness shall correct thee, and thy backslidings shall reprove thee: know therefore and see that it is an evil thing and bitter, that thou hast forsaken the Lord thy God, and that my fear is not in thee, saith the Lord God of hosts.
Because Adam and Eve decided to disobey God. And you will notice this. When you do wrong to someone you will be "burned in hell" if he can forgive you and do good to you as answer to your wrong to him.
Rom 12
19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.
21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
I see this "bitter food and poisoned water" that my physical wife and kids drink when i meet with them in town. When I friendly greet them they just ran away.
https://www.facebook.com/johan.abrahams.50767/posts/120634539636667?comm...
@ Johan
"And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God amongst the trees of the garden."
You just described an incompetent and stupid god. According to the bible, this god should know where anyone is, at any time.
Everyone has his perspective on this. You as a human being is living by intellect. So you have to say something from your intellect.
I am born from God and live Spiritually. So I look to it from the Spiritual perspective. God new they did wrong. But they didn't know the Spiritual Reality of doing wrong. That is hiding from the One that you wronged. So He is teaching them now the consequences of doing wrong to Someone that Loves you. And teach them some more on what Love actually mean practically. To Forgive. As He is doing.
@ Johan
What you are doing with the bible is accepting what you like, and discarding what disagrees with your bullshit brand of religion. Your cognitive dissonance will not allow you to even approach the thought that your god may not be as wonderful as you want to believe.
It is right there in the bible, your god, despite being granted attributes as all-knowing, could not find a couple in the woods.
Your post illustrates that. I was discussing the bible and possible failings of your god, and you reply by going off in a weird direction, ranting about shit.
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I met with God personally. Like most Christians did. It is very important in the Christian Religion to have met with Him personally and have an ongoing Relationship with God that is now their Father with them being born of Him and His Child.
When we change to be the Child of God the Goodness that we experience is just too much for any opinion on God that does not match with our experience. You can not match an opinion with experience of something different. Experience is on a Higher Level.
Seems you already tried with some "theists" here in your very forum and saw this situation.
"I met with God personally."
Stop lying johan.
You have not met with a god that does not exist. Normal human emotions originating from your own brain, do not constitute a god.
We have evidenced that these feelings, emotions, and your subsequent concoction of your own personal god delusion, is actually delusional thought, residing in your broken mind.
Please seek professional psychiatric help.
Johan, your theses are really difficult to follow. If you want us to undersand your point, talk with more clarity and precision with your words.
Feelings mean nothing in providing evidence, much less for any supernatural entities.
Sorry. I am trying my best. But I have to stick to words that come to my mind. I am not really trying to figure them out. Because they come from God. He is in me and directing me to speak these things.
That’s explains SOOoOo much ‘cause of the clear, concise language and meaning that leaves no confusion (Babel ring a bell) his written word brought.
Now it’s this guy!!!!
Yep. I am getting the Feeling from God. What I had to speak about. And then I have to use my intellect to try and explain the "Feeling". And Feelings from God are not easy to explain. Even humans struggle with their human feelings.
Intellect?
ROTFLMAO.
Cripes man, you can't even grasp that any feelings you personally have originate in your own brain.
ROTFLMAO.
Next time you feel something then try and pinpoint the feeling. It is generally feel in the region of your heart. That is why they say "heart felt".
No. Feelings are only generated neurochemically in your brain. Your heart is only a pump, and has zero capacity to process feelings...only your brain can do that. What you may feel in your heart, is generated in your brain.
@doG
I know the heart is a pump. I didn't say that it generates feeling. I said feelings come from God and experienced in the region of the heart. Your brain dictate to God what feeling/spirit you want and you get it. And then it controls your actions. And if asked for a bad spirit your actions might be very regrettable when you met with the consequences of them.
No, that is absolutely wrong...what you are saying is your delusion speaking.
" I didn't say that it generates feeling. I said feelings come from God and experienced in the region of the heart."
For the sixth or seventh time, your heart does not have the cellular function of to be able to process feelings/emotions. That is a physical impossibility. Your ignorance is astounding...please educate yourself.
"Your brain dictate to God what feeling/spirit you want and you get it."
Your brain dictates to parts of your body, bodily functions, it does not have ability to transmit wish's or thoughts outside the body. That is a physical impossibility. You are ignorant to truth...you should educate yourself...as your delusional belief's do not coincide with reality.
As, everyone is mentioning to you, (i wonder why), go seek professional help. You have significant mental illness.
@doG
"Cripes man, you can't even grasp that any feelings you personally have originate in your own brain."
Sure I "grasp" this. But it is just your opinion. I have a different Experience. So I can not give up an Experience for an opinion. The one is just more Authentic than the other.
Can you "grasp" this?
No johan...I have used objective evidence to show your unevidenced assertions to be NOT true. What you believe, I have evidenced as an impossibility in reality, using scientifically validated repeated demonstrable evidence. Hence, what you call my opinion, is the truth, widely accepted as so, and supported by fact.
It is your own experiences that are not authentic, as they are NOT objectively evidenced in reality, and thusly are NOT fact. Your experiences are however, extremely consistent with a delusional mind...hence why you should urgently seek mental health professionals help.
I sincerely, hope you can grasp this.
In front or in back?
ROTFLMAO.
Too funny.
Where do you always feel "feelings"?
Your brain manages all feelings in your body...it generates every feeling you can possibly have for every part of your body.
@doG
Your brain is controlled by you. Your soul. The real you. You are not "brain". You tell your brain what to do. It does not control you. You can decide when it has to study and when not. When it has to drive the motor car and when it has to assist you in your workout in the gym. Just as your body is not you. It is just your body. You tell it to workout even if it is complaining because of the stress.
Same with feeling. When you experience love from a another person coming to you, you decide that you want to meet it with love too or not. When you experience lust coming to you then you decide to meet it with lust too and those feelings are given to you to rule your next actions. You might feel that it is not right to allow for lust for instance when you are married to someone else but you can decide to play along for the joy of the moment. Then lust rules your next wrong actions. And you tell your brain how to react according to lust.
Same with anger. You might feel you want to be angry at someone and then allow for it to rule your next actions towards that person. And you might kill that person. Because it is ruling your intellect. And intellect is not strong enough to prevent it from happening. That is why we have the saying that love and anger is blind.
In all these cases the Love from God is such a strong emotion that it overrules any evil emotion. So for Good/Godly Life to be yours always it is only possible this way. Only in God's Love can we Love always and everyone. It is not possible with the spirits that God provides for human existence as they are of equal strength. One of them can not rule the other. But God's Love rule all evil spirits. The reason is its Joy. Humans choose for the most Joy. And the most is found in the Holy Spirit.
https://twitter.com/johanabrahams2/status/1230435994526195713
Rom 12
18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.
19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.
21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
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