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I want you to get yourself help. Period. YES, I BELIEVE YOU ARE ILL. You believe in many things that are not evidenced in reality, and they are affecting your ability to interact with reality. I do not know if you have harmed others or not, or yourself...but delusional thought IS evidenced to result in said harm. I do not want anything to happen to others, or you. Does your god want you to love yourself? The christian god does. Maybe it is time to love yourself by going to seek professional help.
@Cog
...like this? They’re cute and popular, though...
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@White.
Cute. My little sis had one of them,. It was a pencil sharpener. The pencil went up its arse.
LOL.
@Johan “ ...now and find some evidence on your "unicorn". Maybe a photo? Shouldn't take you too long?”
You show yours first (like a couple of 4 yr olds)...
Hey! Old Man!!! Post a real pic of your garage door! The proof is you live in your house and there’s a place for the unicorn...it interacts
‘cause you hear it ...and since you eat breakfast every morning (mostly) you “feel” it guiding you to food...
EDITED to add: AHHH fuck!!!!! This fuckin post was suppose to be under the unicorn area where evidence is wanted by God ...Jesus fuckin’ Christ screwed up (me)
@ Whitefire
Well I hope you watched Eric in his Youtube video...he is proud of his work
@ WFire
Here's the picture of Eric's welcome mat. He also sells them if you want the link.
So to all you doubters, Eric must be true 'cos 10,00 people in his neighborhood have bought doormats! ...well not exactly 10,000, and well, not exactly in the neighborhood...but they will all tell you! I promise!
He is such a freeloader, with all the merchandise he generates, you know statues, toys, place mats, jig saws and he just turned up one day. Never pays rent and reckons I get good value because I can see him and "he loves me"...sheesh. Says he "lives in poverty" ...balls. He lives on the sweat of my brow.
Its been so peaceful since Cog's brother stole him. Except, as I said, Walter does miss him.
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You should link us to your chatting. As i am doing with mine. Then we can determine your level of Relationship with Him. I am sure that it will never reached the standard of God's Relationships. Where you see me and my Kids together with my Husband and their Father. Enjoying Spiritual Family Life. Right here on the Internet.
https://www.atheistrepublic.com/forums/debate-room/gods-love?page=6#comm...
Seems you lost it. Going on the theme that I am delusional.
@ Johan
I am just going to leave that there...Mother? Father? 10,000 people agree?
Mate...
Well i have evidence that your joke is not up to par with my reality.
https://www.atheistrepublic.com/forums/debate-room/gods-love?page=6#comm...
There is another approach that I think will be more worthy to help you get somewhere.
https://www.atheistrepublic.com/forums/debate-room/gods-love?page=4#comm...
You can also use some background that has been gathered already by the Skeptics in the world. When they actaully reached the point of having to accept that I am really who i say I am they ran away.
https://forums.delphiforums.com/king/messages/?msg=454.1
@ Johan
I did check on the skeptics forums. The conclusion they reached is that you were utterly delusional. Not whatever you claimed to be and banned you for shitposting and spam.
THREE FORUMS Banned you for the same thing.
You need treatment Johan. You need help.
That is it I am done.
That was really "thorough" of you. Good. So you saw that they really did look thoroughly into my Life. And they never discovered any lie. I am actually living the Life I say I am living. Although they don't agree with it I am living it. And I have the explanation for my strange live. That they don't believe in. But they do believe the factual of it.
@ Johan
What part of they WENT to to your town. They TALKED to people who know you. Do you not understand? I am not going to fly (even if Covid did not prevent me), to a hick town in South Africa to investigate the delusional claims of an indigent person.
Someone on the sceptic forums DID go to your town, did investigate and discover the story you are NOT telling us. The story you will not disclose even now, your dishonesty is palpable now.
Yes you are living as you say you are...except the delusional bits. No, you are not respected. No, 'most' people do not think you are a Mother. There is an easy explanation for your "strange live", no one is puzzled , amazed or confounded by it. Only you.
You are lucky that you are not a street person, eventually being forcibly incarcerated for treatment.
Stay safe. Get serious professional help.
@Whitefire13
"You show yours first (like a couple of 4 yr olds)..."
I showed mine already. With my links. But I know you want one of God. But just as you have to look at two persons in love to determine love you need to look at me and my Children to determine that i am the Wife of God. You can just look out your door and you will find many Children of God without a Mother. I am just the last piece of the puzzle. That is why they too have difficulty in accepting that God is actually creating a total Family. They thought He wanted a broken One. That is what you call a Family without a Mother.
And you can see all the kids of God fighting against one another because of the consequences reaped in a broken Family.
Johan and folks,
Love is a difficult subject for intellectual debate IMHO and God's love even more difficult. I believe that love is a feeling, which I have felt for family and others, but I have not felt 'God's love' at any time and thus do not know what it is.
There is a feeling for the world, which mystics describe, that I have known at moments and again I didn't link it with a God concept. I guess, along with many sceptics, I would say that there isn't much evidence of 'God's love' in our world history. So not much of a contribution from me.
D.
@dorkin
The feeling of love originates in each humans brain, and is initiated by stimulus you encounter. It is initiated by certain neuro-chemical reactions to said stimuli. Several neurotransmitters/peptides (like oxytocin), provide variants of this feeling. It only occurs when your brain meets specific requirements. Love does not come from an outside agent or any magical supernatural realm floating around in woo woo ness. It only occurs in each individual when initiated by that individual, only as a function of your brain.
Please educate yourself.
"It only occurs in each individual when initiated by that individual, only as a function of your brain".
That is totally what you would expect from humans. Being gods themselves. You decide who you want to love and who not. But the feeling does not come from your brain. It comes from angels/spirits that God created to fulfill your choice for you. That is why you experience the feeling not in your brain. Your brain can only think.
For us Christians we Love everyone always. No matter if he/she is "good" or "bad" We died to being gods ourselves and got born again from the Creator God that only Loves.
Mat. 5
43 ¶Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
No johan, feelings come only from neurochemical reaction from each person's brain.
There is zero evidence that there are supernatural things like gods or spiritual realms as you think. (delusional thought on your part), but there is mountains of objective demonstrable evidence that your brain produces all the feelings you feel for all parts of your body. No evidence for spiritual realms/gods...hundreds of thousands of validated research studies proving all feeling we experience, comes from our own brains cerebral cortex.
I don't want to insult you, but your knowledge base is very poor...that combined with your religious based cognitive dissonance, is preventing you from realizing this.
Do some research if you do not believe me. Here, I have google searched the sentence "where do human feelings come from" here are the google results:
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1CATTSD_enCA856&sxsrf=ALeKk03A7RMPFHw9...
@doG
"I don't want to insult you,"
Good. No need to let your feelings rule your brain. Causing you to act against "good intellect". Because that happens. Like the fear devil ruling all the countries now.
" but your knowledge base is very poor.."
Not really. I have a masters in theology. There is nothing wrong with my brain or the knowledge I have. But according to what you know in your field I am obviously far behind. But I have the basics without having to spend time in getting more.
The difference is that although i know what you know I don't live by it. I don't live according to knowledge of my brain.
Gen. 2
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
I Live according to the other tree.
Gen. 2
9 And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
The "Tree of Life".
So I am believing this:
1 Samuel 16
14 ¶But the Spirit of the Lord departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the Lord troubled him.
The reason being because of my Experiences with God and it being the Truth. In Truth I mean something that manifests in your Life as New Life of God.
We grow up in the Life of God as His Child. This is a different Life to human being life. It is God Life. True God Life. Unlike humans that are subject to created spirits by God and experiencing them on a low level we Experience the Holy Spirit as Everlasting. It does not diminish like human love. It can not be ruled by other spirits/feelings like anger, irritation, stress, fear, anxiety which to us are all evil spirits that we don't make room for.
Now to ask of me to stop Loving and being subject to a lower life of being controled by evil spirits/feelings ruling my life again and making me a slave to them creating sin is totally "ignorant" of you. Or as you say it: "Your knowledge base is very poor". Likewise this is not an insult. So don't call those other spirits into your soul now to start acting "foolish". Or against "good intellect".
As Sheldon did. And you agreeing with his conduct.
https://www.atheistrepublic.com/forums/debate-room/gods-love?page=9#comm...
Not realizing that afterwards he will not feel good about his words as He has to carry now the consequences of His actions.
https://www.atheistrepublic.com/forums/debate-room/gods-love#comment-175196
@ Dworkin
Love and other emotions are being explored by science, even mapped to brain functions. Technically, "love" is a series of chemical reactions. That may seem cold and impersonal, but it does not diminish what I feel.
What is important is not crowing about how full of love you are, but acting on it, making sure that you make sure that everyone around you is the recipient of your love and care.
"What is important is not crowing about how full of love you are, but acting on it, making sure that you make sure that everyone around you is the recipient of your love and care."
Seems you manage just as well as Christians born of God with Him as their Father?
Mat. 5
43 ¶Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
We don't even know that a deity is possible, let alone that it can produce an emotional response in one species of evolved ape.
We do know a placebo effect is possible, and that it can be very powerful. Occam's razor asserts that adding unecessary claims to any hypothesis increases the likelihood it will be invalid.
So far, we have a belief in an unevidenced concept, that can't be rationally supported, and this belief allegedly producing a strong emotion.
The belief doesn't even have to be the same religion or deity, indeed there is plenty of evidence that no belief in any religion or deity is even necessary to produce a strong placebo effect.
Pssst Sheldon, David and any others....
I left the back of the Kingdom Hall (church for the worldlees) open a crack .... you can slip out quietly and unnoticed ... shhsshhhhhhh
Thanks for your honesty.
Seems you met with Love. But only momentarily. Not as a Permanent Emotion staying with you as your intellect does. This is just the problem with human beings. Not being able to "switch it on". They can do many things. But they can not control the best Life has to offer. And they are so vulnerable in this regard. Some even fear love and the manipulating power others have on you when you are controlled by it. Such a sad case really.
The difference with God is in this. It is His Living Principle. Like instinct is for the animals and intellect is for the humans. And to choose for a rebirth from God is to choose for Love as your guiding Principle right through your day. That is why God said Adam will die in eating of the tree of knowledge/intellect.
Gen. 2
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die
Choosing for intellect to be your guiding Principle. This is vs God that is Alive in Love. In Love being with Him Permanently. Being guided by it always as His Living principle.
This whole Life of God is restored in us by the Word on Jesus.
John 1
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
In God's Life we Love always. Permanently. And we became Alive. No longer dead in intellectualism of Adam.
But for the switch to happen intellect as guiding principle in man has to die. And Love has to be born into man. This is why the Bible call it a dead to you and a reborn into the Life of Christ. Only then are you actually a Christian. When you are Christ. The Child of God born again in the Principle as Love being your guiding Principle in Life.
Gal. 2
20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
Personally, I determine another person’s love for me through their actions (rarely just words) ...however if I’m in the midst of getting some “action” well then, baby, bring on the words...
@White
"Personally, I determine another person’s love for me through their actions (rarely just words) ...however if I’m in the midst of getting some “action” well then, baby, bring on the words..."
Indeed.
I have long considered the most important things in life are to love and to feel loved . I don't say 'to be loved" because I'm not a mind reader and must judge by behaviour.
I also discovered from experience that people change their minds. Either that or they have a very different understanding of those three little words than I..
So you admit words convey feelings too. And in this case you see the feelings in the Words of a Mother giving birth to Her Children. With God as the Father. So the strange words have meaning now for you?
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=101944621505659&set=a.1019446481...
@J0h4N
....has god taught you how to use the “@postername” yet????
I did see it and was wondering. i did ask some help in quoting in a previous post. Getting that light grey vertical line next to it. I am still waiting for someone to make use of the opportunity. Maybe you?
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