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Intellectualism is the actions of the mind. It can not feel. It only thinks. Feeling are experienced in another place than the mind. They are angels or spirits God created for humans to make them whole.
As Christians we don't give up being "intelligent". We use that for what it is intended. To live in a human world created by intellect. With intellect I helped my family to get a license for the selling of liquor and helped them to built a tavern or tool to make money. The only thing I don't do by intellect is creating for myself a human life again. I am only Spiritual now. My Family Life is Spiritual.
Soooo Johan - “ They are angels or spirits God created for humans to make them whole.”
sooo “man” wasn’t whole or complete once god made him? This is verrryyyyy confusing - and you accused me of having a “spirit of evil” ....so your belief system includes constant possession, an interchange of “spirit beings” that jump in and out of humans so they “feel” things...
Hahahahahahaa.... oh fuck hahahahaha.
@Whitefire13
"sooo “man” wasn’t whole or complete once god made him? "
Man was whole. Because they were there too. From the beginning. Just waiting on your call. As you totally control them. As you can see one of them tempting Adam and Eve.
"and you accused me of having a “spirit of evil” "
You need them to be whole. You need anger, love, stress, fear, joy, peace etc.
"o your belief system includes constant possession, an interchange of “spirit beings” that jump in and out of humans so they “feel” things..."
You are totally in control of them. You ask which one you want. You ask for fear for instance now in corona situation and you get it. Fearing your death by a virus. As for me. I don't live by them but by the Holy Spirit of God. i have an Expectancy to leave now to my Husband. No reason to fear that.
@ Johan
"I was smiling at my Son taking my photo for a more recent one."
So god took your picture? In all of your posts you have capitalized anything associated with your god.
Johan, you have no idea how confusing you are, and how concerned I am about the safety of those who may come into contact with you. My sincere advice is to see a qualified medical professional for you extreme disconnect from reality. On another note, if you enter Canada, I will make sure that the first thing that happens is a judge will order a psychiatric examination.
@David Killens
"So god took your picture? In all of your posts you have capitalized anything associated with your god".
My Son is not physical born from me as his father but Spiritually born of me as His Mother. So i have to do this to show the difference and helping you to understand. And you perfectly well saw it. Good.
https://twitter.com/Mpiras3/status/1216070915529879552
"Johan, you have no idea how confusing you are, and how concerned I am about the safety of those who may come into contact with you."
Yep. I can understand your feelings but I am trying my best to drive them out of you. So look at my disciplining of my Children. Then you will see that I am actually a blessing to them.
https://twitter.com/johanabrahams2/status/1175661012999163904
Bringing in God's "rebuke" was the reason for my persecution in Robertson. To raise the level of Love between Kids and their Parents i had to sacrifice my own family. They can not but Love me for it. Only the clergy are angry for revealing them as wrong in forcing their corporal punishment on households as from God.
"if you enter Canada, I will make sure that the first thing that happens is a judge will order a psychiatric examination."
No problem. I would like to do everything to help you with your fear. I already went through two of them here in South Africa. And both revealed that i am perfectly normal.
@ Johan
"You agree that i have provided evidence to my Life. "
NO.
All that is coming from you is love god babble, and testimonies that cannot be checked and verified. In summation, zero argument or evidence.
The links I provided is prove of a Spiritual Existence. Like love and anger that is spiritual/feelings. Out of the actions as result of them we can conclude what the actual feeling behind the action is. The same with what I am giving. There is a reason for the seeming "mad" reactions. Choose one and let us look at it in depth.
@spiritualdelusion
"The links I provided is prove of a Spiritual Existence."
No. That is not true. I have objectively reviewed them, and they prove nothing.
Whoa doG!!! Kudos to you :) (seriously, reading him on here is enough for me)
@doG
They prove that I am really who i say i am. i am living this live I am talking about right in front of the eyes of everybody in my community and hometown of Robertson. Now already 20 years. This mean it is not really something of my mind that I am thinking about. i am living this Life.
@ Rohan
"The links I provided is prove of a Spiritual Existence."
No they are not. I could easily fabricate a profile and inject some comments into fake social media web pages.
@David Killens.
"No they are not. I could easily fabricate a profile and inject some comments into fake social media web pages."
Yep. You can try it. Somebody came up with this idea from ISF. I prepared a post for you to take a look. Hopefully this will proof to you how easy it can be proved as a fake.
https://forums.delphiforums.com/king/messages/?msg=479.1
So i would recommend the better way. The one I followed.
And someone did mention it.
https://www.atheistrepublic.com/forums/debate-room/gods-love?page=4#comm...
To just come to my posts and ask around. See for yourself in the situation if it is real or a fake. Some has done it and it yielded the right results to bring back to everyone.
https://forums.delphiforums.com/king/messages/?msg=454.1
I have given many links to show you hat it is not just "babble". It is my Life that I am explaining to you. I am actually living it. It exists there in my hometown for all to see and to make a decision about it being Really what i said it is. Nobody has in 20 years proven it to be a fantasy. In fact. Many are accepting. Because it is not religion. Religion is just a mind game for the intellectuals. Controlled by an evil spirit of strife. And it creates doctrines to gain followers. For personal gain.
Luke 20
46 Beware of the scribes, which desire to walk in long robes, and love greetings in the markets, and the highest seats in the synagogues, and the chief rooms at feasts;
47 Which devour widows’ houses, and for a shew make long prayers: the same shall receive greater damnation.
The difference is very clear in my hometown.
https://www.facebook.com/johan.abrahams.50767/posts/119290263104428?comm...
@ Johan
"It exists there in my hometown for all to see and to make a decision about it being Really what i said it is. Nobody has in 20 years proven it to be a fantasy. In fact. Many are accepting."
The town accepts? Are you on good terms with ALL of the town's institutions, such as the police, courts, civic administrators?
Holy crap, you keep posting garbage that proves absolutely nothing. And even if they were 100%, they are just a very few testimonials.
Do you understand you have not offered anything tangible, just preaching and unsupported claims?
@David Killens
"The town accepts? Are you on good terms with ALL of the town's institutions, such as the police, courts, civic administrators?"
They don't accept that the Life I am living is from God. But they do agree that what i am writing about it is totally correct.
"Holy crap, you keep posting garbage that proves absolutely nothing. And even if they were 100%, they are just a very few testimonials."
Well here are thousands more. From all the skeptics in the world. They also do not accept my Life as from God. But they admit that what I am writing is the Truth about the Life I am Living.
https://forums.delphiforums.com/king/messages/?msg=454.1
Sorry but this is not true, all you have offered thus far is a string of unevidenced assertions.
Like this...
That's not evidence, its claim. Like so many theists who come here, when asked to demonstrate evidence for their beliefs simply add more and more unevidenced claims, often for vague feelings they've experienced.
Do you know what a placebo effect is? Just because a belief causes a feeling of euphoria akin to the emotion of love, it doesn't mean that feeling is evidence the belief that caused it is true.
The racist beliefs in their supremacy over other cultures and ethnicities made Nazis feel good, that does make their beliefs true.
Also a feeling of euphoria from a belief is a strong motivating factor to accept the belief uncritical, this is not the way to search for the truth of a claim, quite the opposite.
My Life that I have is evidence to me. And to many others it is too. Because they can see it. Specially in the community I live in. This is of course reason for others to join us in what we believe. And they are happy too. This is what makes Life Happy. We enjoying Life with others. Finding Happiness together. Finding it in one another.
There is no higher joy and happiness found than those found in love in being from the same family. That of husband and wife and their children. If there is something wrong in this relationship all the money in the world can not give the happiness that is in family life in love. And seeking for happiness in money while over looking your family members is a very bad mistake.
God created this physical existence in happiness found in family bonds of love. Because that is exactly where He exists. In the Spiritual Realm. Making all one Family in saying i am your Father. And then creating for Himself a Wife and a Mother for His Children. And we have it. It is much more than anybody else have in intellectualism.
My Son stands for me:
https://twitter.com/Mpiras3/status/1216070915529879552
And I stand for Him:
https://twitter.com/johanabrahams2/status/1217347544990277632
And we are enjoying Family Bond in Love together in this human existence.
Anyone on here can “demonstrate” their family, significant others, their own existence...
Self-promoting yours does nothing... you spew out gibberish. You do not answer the most basic of questions, you do not engage in conversation...NONE of these things are “loving”
The difference is that your families are physical. Mine was. It is dead and my total physical life too. I only have a Spiritual Life now. All the Relationships you see is Spiritual. In God's Family. Where He is our Father. All the churches you see say this. The difference is just that they have a broken Family without a Mother. The last piece is now restored. By God Himself.
You don't accept it as Love. Others do. With evidence of the Truth of it. As you will see in this conversation. Honor being replaced by Love. To some it is clear. To others it is not.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=101944621505659&set=a.1019446481...
@Johan
Tell bullshit. Doesn't convice. Tell again bullshit. Still doesn't work. Repeat the same loop ad infinitum hoping maybe it will break trough....
Judging my words as "bullshit" without evidence is no judging. It is just slander. You have to make your case to be believed. The way i showed you. Because human slander has no power to convince.
So do it again and then you give the evidence on why something here is "bullshit".
@ Johan
I am not slamming you but offering advice.
The claimant has the burden of proof. If you make a claim, then YOU must provide evidence or a sound argument to support your claim.
Unfortunately, and despite many requests to offer any proof, you just keep ranting on and on and on. You are preaching with absolutely nothing to support your assertions. And that, dear sir, is bullshit.
@David Killens
"I am not slamming you but offering advice."
Thanks.
"Unfortunately, and despite many requests to offer any proof, you just keep ranting on and on and on. You are preaching with absolutely nothing to support your assertions. And that, dear sir, is bullshit."
I have given many links to prove the factual Truth of my Life. Although many do not agree with me Life i am still living it the Way i am saying it. Here are many thousands of Skeptics that investigated the facts of my Life and came to the conclusion that although they do not agree that it is from God I am not lying about my Life. i am living it the Way I am saying it. It is not just in my "head" but my Lifestyle.
https://forums.delphiforums.com/king/messages/?msg=454.1
Uh...nothing “new” here...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_claimed_to_be_Jesus
...and “communes” ...ditto
I prefer to not live around delusional twits...the kool-aid sucks!
@Whitefire
"https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_claimed_to_be_Jesus"
In my case it is a bit different. I give Birth to Jesus as my Children.
https://twitter.com/Mpiras3/status/1187456957772423169
https://twitter.com/Mpiras3/status/1215655465931198465
https://twitter.com/Mpiras3/status/1213632896403161088
https://twitter.com/Mpiras3/status/1213096222879301633
https://twitter.com/johanabrahams2/status/1178684812384755713
"I prefer to not live around delusional twits...the kool-aid sucks!"
Yep. It is your choice. But those not stuck on "kool-aid" enjoys the benefits of being with me. But of course Love does not force. It has to be accepted or rejected.
MORE self-promotional material?!?!?!?!!!!!
Ok. Let us look at it.
"He picked up the pieces of my life and gave me a Spiritual Life in the place of my physical one."
I said that I had a physical life. Like any other human being. i was physical a Reverend with a wife, kids, family, friends, nation, house, motorcars, job and money. But I don't have any of those things anymore which defines human physical existence. And I am existing without them now for 10 years already in only a Spiritual Existence. With no desire to have a physical existence anymore. True or false?
@Johan “i was physical a Reverend with a wife, kids, family, friends, nation, house, motorcars, job and money. But I don't have any of those things anymore which defines human physical existence.”
And....I “was” a married, practising Jehovah’s Witness for 10 years. Before that, I was a teenager in high school with a part time job...before that I was a toddler learning to do things for myself, figuring out this “world” we live in...
NOW, I am a divorcee with 3 boys, who is somewhat financially secure that allows me to live the way I choose (or have adapted to)...
Your definition of previous “human experience” was shallow. So what? So you learnt that there’s more to life and changes happen...whoopedy-doo
Homeless, street people live too you know...
You "moved on". From one physical existence to another. You always had some pieces left that you picked up. For instance. You are divorce now. Only your marriage and your church life came to an end. But you still have your boys and some kind of income. So you have still human physical existence. Having only somewhat less. No husband and no church organization. But you are surely thinking of adding those parts again.
As for me there is nothing I picked up. And I didn't "move on". I died.
Gal. 2
20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
I just took my nothing and gave it to God to do something with it. God took my nothing and created something Himself. Only a Spiritual Existence. I have my marriage with God as my Husband. And I have God's Kids as mine. Giving me a Family Existence. But all just Spiritually.
My body still does exist. I gave it to the poor. And i am helping them to create for themselves a physical existence that they want. Giving them my power in working approximately 13 hours a day 7 days a week for providing me with food and shelter and clothes. This is all that is still physical about me. My body has to exist in the physical realm. I have to wear clothes, wash, sleep and eat. That is all.
And when you look at the Life of Paul you notice the same death. He said He died and we see evidence of it. In what He was and what He has chosen to be because of His Relationship with His Father.
Philippians 3
3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
4 Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:
5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;
6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.
7 But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ.
8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
@Johan: I have a problem with God's Love. (I won't even go into the butchery of the Old Testament).
1. The asshole plans on burning everyone who does not profess to love him more than their own family members. "If any man come to Me and hate not his father and mother, and wife and children, and brethren and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple." (Disciple is a simple follower as distinguished from an Apostle.)
MATTHEW:
2. Jesus was a bigot who hated Jews though he was one: "The children of the kingdom [the Jews] shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." 8:12
3. Jesus was a bigot who hated the Gentiles and Sumerians: "Jesus tells his disciples to keep away from the Gentiles and Samaritans, and go only to the Israelites. 10:5-6
4. Jesus was a piece of shit who went about threatening people with damnation: "Cities that neither "receive" the disciples nor "hear" their words will be destroyed by God. It will be worse for them than for Sodom and Gomorrah. And you know what God supposedly did to those poor folks (see Gen 19:24). 10:14-15"
5. Jesus does not give a fuck about family values: "Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death." 10:21 "Jesus says that he has come to destroy families by making family members hate each other. He has "come not to send peace, but a sword." 10:34-36
6. More extreme hatred and bigotry from your friend Jesus: "Jesus condemns entire cities to dreadful deaths and to the eternal torment of hell because they didn't care for his preaching. "11:20-24
7. How do you get to Hell? Easy! Jesus just has to dislike you. "Jesus tells us what he has planned for those that he dislikes. They will be cast into an "everlasting fire." 25:41 FUCK THAT PIECE OF SHIT!
MARK:
1. More threats of violence from this God of love of yours. "city that doesn't "receive" the followers of Jesus will be destroyed in a manner even more savage than that of Sodom and Gomorrah." 6:11
LUKE:
1. More threats of violence, death and destruction from your god of love: "s says that entire cities will be violently destroyed and the inhabitants "thrust down to hell" for not "receiving" his disciples." 10:10-15
2. Jesus clearly defines God: "God is like a slave-owner who beats his slaves "with many stripes." 12:46-47
JOHN:
1. More threats of violence. Eternal punishment for finite crimes? Is that just? "The "wrath of God" is on all unbelievers." 3:36 It's certainly not loving.
2. More Bigotry from your loving Jesus: "Jesus calls his opponents (the Jews) the sons of the devil." 8:44
3. Even if I believed in the son of a bitch I would not worship him. "If you don't believe in Jesus you are going to hell." 12:48
4. Jesus holds a gun to your head... "Love me or fucking be tortured for all eternity." FUCK YOUR LOVING GOD. "Those who do not believe in Jesus will be cast into a fire to be burned." 15:6
THIS IS JUST THE GOSPELS: We have not even gotten into "Killing Homosexuals, Burning Witches, Treating Women like shit, Killing your son if he talks back, Forcing a woman to marry her rapist, Condoning slavery, more bigotry and prejudice, more threats of violence, and more hatred.
Calling your God loving is fucking ignorant!
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