The Soul

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The Soul

Got another fun question :)

Do you guys believe we have souls? If you do, what happens to them when we die?
And for that matter, what do you guys define as a soul?

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biggus dickus's picture
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algebe's picture
I have a mind. I have self

I have a mind. I have self-awareness. They come from my brain. When I die, my brain will stop working, and my mind will cease to be.

I have two soles. They help to keep me on my feet.

There is soul. And Arethra Franklin is the Queen of it.

Benjboi's picture
WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why don

WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why don't you do your research algebe?

Everyone knows that Gladys Knight was the queen of soul (she also sung my favourite bond theme so maybe I'm a bit biased)

mykcob4's picture
Not in the USA Benjboi.

Not in the USA Benjboi. Aretha is queen and was queen long before Gladys was ever on the scene.

Benjboi's picture
Ahhh crap, I hate being

Ahhh crap, I hate being proved wrong.

Flamenca's picture
I love Irma Thomas... Time

I love Irma Thomas... Time time time is on my side, yes it is...

P.S. Soul is a chemical reaction in our brains, but what an amazing and wonderful delusion!

algebe's picture
@Benjboi: "she also sung my

@Benjboi: "she also sung my favourite bond theme"

No, no, no. The best Bond theme is "Goldfinger" by Shirley Bassey. The worst is "Live and Let Die" by Paul McCartney and Wings. Carly Simon gets an honorable mention for "Nobody Does it Better" ("The Spy Who Loved Me").

Benjboi's picture
Careful we're about to fall

Careful we're about to fall out. It's too risky to start discussing this, I feel far too strongly about the order of the bond songs and even more so about the films (hint - die another day and moonraker are at the bottom). It's probably best we leave this alone lest we cause a war from completely subjective opinion.

Pitar's picture
No soul. Closest thing that

No soul. Closest thing that comes to that exists in the psyche, aka imagination with extreme prejudice towards immortality, that would be championed by the apologists in our midst. Otherwise life is just a switch on, switch off moment in time. Or, as some see it, a raw deal.

AJ777's picture
Maybe a question that might

Maybe a question that might help clarify is if anything non physical exists?

algebe's picture
@AJ777: "Maybe a question

@AJ777: "Maybe a question that might help clarify is if anything non physical exists?"

Does anything non-physical exist that does not arise from physical phenomena?

The answer to your question is yes. The answer to mine is no.

AJ777's picture
What about the number 8?

What about the number 8?

algebe's picture
@AJ777: "What about the

@AJ777: "What about the number 8?"

Where did that come from?

AJ777's picture
Yes is the number 8 a

Yes is the number 8 a physical thing?

Nyarlathotep's picture
No the idea of the number 8

The concept of 8 doesn't seem to be physical. But information that I have 8 marbles in a sack is physical.

algebe's picture
@AJ777" "Yes is the number 8

@AJ777" "Yes is the number 8 a physical thing?"

I asked you where it came from, and you asked me another question.

Did the number 8 grow on a tree, fall from the sky, or form in your mind like other thoughts and concepts?

ʝօɦռ 6IX ɮʀɛɛʐʏ's picture
Technically he asked you the

Technically he asked you the question first, so when you asked where it came from, it came off as if you were asking him for clarification. Hence the "Yes is the number 8 a physical thing?"

algebe's picture
What I meant was, where did

What I meant was, where did the number eight come from. That's the key to whether it's physical.

ʝօɦռ 6IX ɮʀɛɛʐʏ's picture
It seems rather trivial to

It seems rather trivial to ask where it comes from, if you agree the thing itself is not physical.

algebe's picture
@Atheist Breezy: "It seems

@Atheist Breezy: "It seems rather trivial to ask where it comes from"

What I want to hear from the OP is whether or not he believes the number 8 can exist as a non-physical concept without first being conceived within a physical brain. I think that's non-trivial.

ʝօɦռ 6IX ɮʀɛɛʐʏ's picture
I just don't see the point I

I just don't see the point I suppose. It seems you agree that the number isn't physical. If that's so, being conceived by the brain doesn't alter that. Chloride can kill you, and Sodium can explode, yet they can both come from salt, which you need to survive.

AJ777's picture
It seems to me that the

It seems to me that the number 8 exists as a non physical abstract object independently of whether or not I believe it exists. If I simply lacked a belief in 8, that would not mean it did not exist. And those that could clearly see that reason dictates it exists might try to convince me of that fact.

algebe's picture
AJ777: "It seems to me that

AJ777: "It seems to me that the number 8 exists as a non physical abstract object"

Can it exist without a physical brain capable of forming the concept of the number 8? There may be groups of eight things in nature, but the concept of 8 only exists as electrical and chemical reactions inside a physical brain. The thought requires a thinker, and the thinker must have a physical, material brain.

AJ777's picture
The concept of abstract

The concept of abstract objects like numbers are widely accepted as really existing outside of the beliefs about whether or not they exist. By your reasoning that 8 doesn’t exist apart from the thoughts about 8, the same could be said for the law of gravity.

Nyarlathotep's picture
I like that you didn't

I like that you didn't suggest a single soul. My complaint might have been:
Why 1 soul? Why not 7 or 4.2 souls? If we are just going to make shit up, why stop at 1?

AJ777's picture
Nyarlathotep, which one of

Nyarlathotep, which one of your souls has asked that made up question?

Nyarlathotep's picture
my e'th soul, of course

my e'th soul, of course

MCDennis's picture
what is this soul thing you

what is this soul thing you are writing about?

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