@sapporo

I honestly thought you were smarter than that. Either you are still just trying to muddy the waters by now playing dumbs or did not read my initial post where I specifically pointed out Shelly boy's failed quora post that he posted in hopes it would be true.

@Nyarlathotep

He also said “generally incest produces genetic defects”. So, as a scientist and atheist shouldn’t that which produces defects be wrong? Or is it now ok to be ok with defects or see nothing wrong with it when he later says and claims “societies want to exist” by exist I assume he is talking about the human race. Seems like he’s fighting between his atheist part telling him its ok while his scientific self is tell him its wrong. Also, Islam says incest is wrong so looks like Islam and science continue to agree. Looks like it's hard being an atheist and and scientist

@logicFTW

“Maybe it has not been answered because you say: "lazy, ignorant, arrogant haters" (you are saying we are lazy, ignorant and arrogant haters,)” In my initial post I specifically said some, while not mentioning names. Honestly, I do not and did not have you in that group.

“and then ask us to do your work for you by finding a debate between "professional and educated" scientist and scholar against a Muslim Scholar.” This is why I said “I feel I will need to clarify every single sentence since the majority of atheists here seem to always reply with what they think I meant or wish I meant rather than what I actually said.” You just did exactly that. I asked a question, you are free to voluntarily “do the work” or not.

“So, insult all of us” you are still reply based of what you think I said and wish I said vs what I actually said.

“then tell us to look up debates for you, that you can easily by your own opinion shoot down if we even did bother to do so.” Since no one has yet to answer my question you have 0 justification to make such a statement or come to that conclusion.

“That looks more like flame bait and an attack on most all atheist regulars here then a genuine question,” Again, you are still reply based of what you think I said and wish I said vs what I actually said.

“which could be more along the lines of: hey you guys: do you know of any good professional debates between a scientist and a muslim scholar that explores topics that are frequently brought up here?” The reason I framed my question the way I did is because I have already done the work for myself and not waiting for anyone to do the work for me. Also, I chose my question because I wanted it to be very specific on the subject I mentioned, while I appreciate your suggestion the results of that suggestion would be very broad.

“Of which I would respond: Sure, No problem, here: I did a 2 second google search for you, you should be able to find relevant links from there.” Thank you for that link but, as I already said, its too broad and does not address the main issue of my question.

“That looks an awful lot like an argument to me, "prove me wrong or further strengthen my current view" Respectfully, I disagree. I said “strengthen my current view on some of the Atheists here” and I still stand by that since no one that replied has yet to provide an answer. My current view on some of the Atheists here (notice the keyword is SOME), is that they are “lazy, ignorant, arrogant haters” and nothing has been done to change that, yet.

“Answered the question, what happens now?” Answer and shall both see.

“Looks an awful like arguing to me” original question was not an argument, it was a question. Not sure where you see me arguing.

“If you were just looking for a different point of view, I imagine there would be a lot less attacking and defensiveness on your part.” I don’t see any attacking on my part, please point it out. If by attacking you are referring to me saying "lazy, ignorant, arrogant haters" then, please prove it/me wrong. In terms of defensiveness, I do not think nor categorize myself simply explaining and answering questions about Islam as being defensive. There have been times were I corrected what people have said, again, I do not consider that being defensive. I hold the position of Islam does NOT need to be defended especially, when “attacked” by people that have no idea what it is. Muslims and their actions need to be defended in order not to give a bad rep to the rest of us. There’s a big difference between Muslims and Islam today, unfortunately.