I cuss. I like cussing. It's a useful tool AND it's honest! You can get straight to the point if you use profanity...CORRECTLY. I have no problem with profanity. That is profanity, not graphic salacious bullshit! I have a problem with "fake" cussing. People think that they are being polite by not actually saying the word but saying something that sounds like the word so the person they are talking to will get the picture that they are intending on using profanity without really saying the profane word. RUBBISH. It's dishonest. Now there is a time to be suggestive and a time, to be frank. Most of the time I choose to be frank.
H-E Double Hockey Sticks it just childish bullshit. And it's the intent that is REALLY the "sin".
If I say "fudge" and everyone knows that was disguising "fuck" then they know my intent. I may as well have said FUCK as loud as I could! "Fudge you" is no different than "Fuck you" except for the fact that "Fuck you" is honest and "Fudge you" is deceitful. Of course, this isn't the case all the time or everywhere but it IS the case most of the time and most anywhere.
I have been to bars that demand that you put a dollar in a tip jar every time you use a cussword! I always refuse and state emphatically that it is a fucking scam and I am not going to participate. If there isn't a sign clearly posted that prohibits profanity then they can not hold me financially responsible for cussing. The same bars don't post a dress code but ring a bell if you are wearing a cap and demand that you by everyone a round of drinks.
Cussing is an art, not a social gaffe. It's important as it is the most understandable speech and most honest speech there is!
So just so we can all be fucking crystal fucking clear (fuck is my favorite word) don't be a cunt and just suggest a cuss word with deceitful intent. Own it say it be honest. There damn well too few honest people in this big cunt we call the world and pussie footing around is worse than cumming too soon. Give a shit or blow it out of your ass. If you haven't the guts to actually say what is on your mind then you shouldn't say it in the first place!
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Myk you need God!!! your post shows that you are angry and frustrated. You should seek therapy; something just ain`t right here. I will pray for you. You know it doesn`t give a good impression of you when you cuss. And it encourages other people to go along with you .Your leading people to sin myk.I don`t even know if you know the consequences of your vulgar language. But I can honestly tell you it doesn`t paint a good picture..
@ Billy
Gee whillickers Billy. I diddly iddly didn't know you cared about MykWyky. Do you have a real, you know, boy crush there old pardner? *nudge nudge* It certainly-wertainly looksy-ooksy just like you do!
You know that's a sinny winny, and jesus wont wuv oo any more?
Now just get on your kneesy weesy billy boy...that's right.ooooohhh...religion aint half funny wunny ain't it billy-bob-marlon?
LOL at your post faith in god follower. Got a good chuckle out of the timing and the type of your response.
I am pretty convinced at this point you are just at this point doing the equivalent of rickrolling. You don't really believe in god, or really care either way, you just like stirring stuff up here and seeing what sort of response you get.
FIG: Jesus H. Tap Dancing Christ! Find an interest in performing cunnilingus or something, will you? You have a very, unhealthy preoccupation with Jesus Christ!
@FIG
Okay, look, FIG. It really breaks my heart that you are sincerely trying to help good ol' Myk to save his soul. But he ain't listening to you, and I think I know the problem. See, you are not speaking in a way Myk understands. If you really want to get through to him, you must talk to him on HIS level of understanding. Please allow me to give you a little demonstration using your own post. Now, while I agree you did okay for anybody else to understand, here is how I would suggest writing it so that MYK will understand it....
Motherfucker, you need Jesus!!! Your lame-ass fucked up rants show very clearly you are one pissed off and malcontent asshole. Go find yourself a fuckin' shrink, cocksucker, because something smells awfully shitty around here. I will raise my hands and voice to my Holy Father in the sky for your unworthy heathen ass whether you like it or not. And you be looking like a cracked-up fool with that filthy fuckin' potty mouth or yours. And you just KNOW all your bullshit is just bringing down all these other lame-ass sons-of-bitches around here with you. Now YOU may not be aware of all your stupid-ass dildo-humpin' asshole fisting retarded bullshit, but I tell you straight up it looks like a shit stain on a week old pair of underwear.
See? That is how you do it. Now all we have to do is sit back and wait for Myk to be saved. Aaaaany minute now...... *strumming fingers on table*
You're the angry one who needs therapy Billy. After all it was you and no one else who gleefully celebrated the death of another human being from cancer.
No amount of nauseating self righteous, fake piety will fool anyone after that.
I'll take a few fucking vituperations any day, over the sickening hypocrisy of your posts. It's hard to imagine a worse picture than your posts paint, Billy.
Well your wrong again, I never celebrated the death of Christopher Hitchens. I was only making the point as the book of Romans states "that he suffered and died do to his choices in life" he got the reward and penalty for his sin. You know Chris who wrote a column for Vanity fair magazine years ago could be quite vulgar in his day. His selection of words branding people like mother Teresa of Calcutta saying that she was in the "missionary position" alluding to a sexual posture. Here was a women that did and accomplished so much(The Noble peace prize) and he says a sexist remark like that about her. She was a nun and should of been treated here with respect .I don`t miss Christopher Hitchens now, I think the world is a better place without people of that sought of vulgarity. He poisoned a lot of peoples minds with his words he turned a lot of people to follow him and lead them right off the cliff. So no your wrong about me celebrating Hitchens death. In fact just as he was in the early stages of esophagus cancer I was suppose to see him debate one evening at a hall out on Long Island New York with the Christian Apologist Doctor James White of Alpha And Omega Ministries. As me being a Catholic Christian of course I had my standards concerning Chris. I had read his columns in Vanity Fair I found his articles and columns quite thought provoking. But I couldn`t accept his Atheism. It`s not to my liking. Because it Just isn`t the best polemic that I can agree to for all that we have in this world and life. You mean that the state of disorder can eventually account for the way the world is today. The scientific term entropy can account for all our development leading up to what we have experienced today is not as far as I`m concerned the best explanation for our lives and existence .It just doesn`t hold water.
Myckbo4: I agree! When someone says "friggin" they put the idea "fucking" into my head! They make me apply "fucking" to their object of derision. They need to take responsibility for the ideas they are trying to convey!
Awww, what the fudge, Myk? Are you fudging kidding me? You know what? You can take your fudging fudge word and shove it up your fudging astronaut. I think you are so full of fudging bullsnap you have bullsnap running out your ears. You've got a H-E-double-hockey-sticks of alot of nerve slinging around that sort of bullsnap. Golly-gee willikers!!! That tinkles me off so fudging bad!
@ TM
*Passes TH his own WW2 Air Raid Warden Helmet*, you'll be freakin needing that you little fudger, you see if you frikking don't you old see-you-next-thursday. I don't get what the flicker old Myk was on about, the odd bad word is just flacking normal. Its not dorothy porn or anything now is it.
Any way if you can furgle off and do something constructive we will all be happy. *tunes back to Munchkin Bowl*
All of you cupid stunts should just fut the shuck up.
Real insults in other languages:
F*ck the 18 generations of your ancestors!
Translated from Mandarin: Cao ni zu zong shi ba dai.
Suck butter from my ass!
Translated from Spanish: Chupe mantequilla de mi culo.
Grandfatherf*cker!
Translating from Icelandic: Afatottari
Shit in your hand and then slap yourself in the face!
Translated from Italian: Cagati in mano e prenditi a schiaffi.
I hope your fingers change into fishing hooks, and you get an itch in your balls!
Translated from Afrikaans: Ek wens jou vingers verander in vishoeke, en jou balle begin te jeuk.
Sweat of a lizard’s ass!
Translated from Hindi: Chipkali ke gaand ke pasine
May the bow of a violin enter your anus!
Translated from Turkish: Sana girsin keman yayi.
Excerpts taken from: https://www.thrillist.com/lifestyle/nation/the-best-foreign-insults
Japanese: Baka yaro. This literally means "you foolish fellow", but it has bigger shock value than any obscenity in English, especially if you put a bit of a burr on the 'r'.
Japanese is seriously under-endowed with foul language.
I think honesty without tact is a useless virtue.
@ Breezy
Looking at your record you don't know much about either.
I beg to differ, but I suppose my readers can judge for themselves.
@ Breezy
Oh they have.....
A truly ironic claim given honesty is considered de rigueur, and dishonesty is claimed to be verboten by your invisible sky fairy.
Tact and reverence are overfuckingrated.
To be tactless is to be crude and/or stupid if:
1; You want to impress someone who regards tactless behavior as indicative of low character and/or intelligence. Maybe you're applying for a job, trying to take in a business partner, a study partner, working at a particular firm, serving customers, or just trying to get along in a society (or circles) that values tact.
2; You are a manager who needs to get the best out of his underlings. (You brush a cat the wrong way and what do you get?)
3; You care about needlessly offending innocent people who have no choice but to endure your tactless behavior. Maybe it's a little, old granny in a grocery line, a family at a fine restaurant, or just some stranger who might bust you in the nose.
4; You care about how other people will treat you. If you needlessly offend people, you will find them less cooperative or even downright hostile.
Tact, the art of avoiding unnecessary offense, is the grease that smooths human relationships. It sits at the core of any civilization worth living in. Tact and good manners are nearly the same thing, except that tact requires mastery. It's a skill.
If you are retired, don't depend on anyone, don't interact with anyone who might be offended, then feel free to wear a tutu if it pleases you! As an ex-sailor, I'd feel terrible if Mike stopped cussing. (Nothing to worry about there!) He can be a BLAST of fresh air! But, when words get overused they lose their punch, and it's a lazy temptation to throw out cuss words with every breath when more thought can make a sharper cut!
I've seen many disrespectful people hide their behavior behind a guise of honesty. They consider themselves nothing less than noble; but there is such a thing as black truths.
If there is something worth saying, then it is worth saying right. Tact isn't just about avoiding unnecessary offense, but about seeking the most effective outcome.
mykcob4
I have to totally agree. My situation in having to write so many papers while being tactful has kind of engrained it into me not to use profanity in my writing. Now, if we talking FtF, well I throw a whole slew of profane terms in with my speech, except when I am giving a presentation to other academics.
Whenever I have said things like "fudge" or "phooey" when something happens, I have had people ask me, "Didn't you mean fuck or shit?" And I replied, "No. If I had meant to say that, I would have."
Usually I will say "phooey" or "fudge" whenever it is something very trivial that goes wrong. However, when I am angry, you'd better cover your ears because I may burn them off with so much filth and foul that it would make a sewage treatment plant look sparkling clean by comparison.
The only time I may write profane terms in a post is when I am responding in anger. Of course, I am beginning to see where mykcob4 can get angry. There are some posts that make me angry. However, I have been trained for so long to step back and cool off before just going off on someone's post. However, I am still waiting for that one post where I cannot stop myself and just blow up on someone.
rmfr
HOLY SHIT I could not have laughed so hard in my fucking life.
First FIG blasted off trying to get attention and then Tin-man wow you outdid yourself. I literally busted a gut. I think something sprang loose inside. I may have to go to the doctor. Man, I really can't stop laughing. And to top it off Breezy tries to come off like he actually has virtues and Old man just puts him in his place so easily it isn't even funny. Thanks for the humor, it made my day and thanks for those who eventually took the thread seriously and actually stated what I was talking about even better than I could have ever stated it. I know all but FIG actually knew what I was talking about. The joke is on him. Chimp and arakish really spelled it out the way I had intended.
Fucking FIG always trying to make every thread about him. he doesn't understand it's not a popularity contest. I don't know WHY in the fuck he thinks I am so popular. I am not nearly as funny es Tin-man or Old man. Not as smart as arakish, Chimp, Sheldon and a dozen more on this forum. Fuck and Breezy is just being Breezy. He would LOVE to hate me, but he likes the popularity of being contrary so I am quite useful to him.
Tin-man, you old show off. I state cussing is great if done correctly and you show that no one can beat you at something if YOU just try. Hell, the christians aren't even as christian as you when YOU want to be a christian. Fuck you are good. Goddamned excellent!
I really started this thread for two fucking reasons.
1) people are just pussies if they think they are being polite when they say "A" hole and mean ASSHOLE!
2) I got tired of seeing the necro post and some of the conversations had become stale.
Hope I gave some of you a creative outlet, yes even you FIG. Feel better now?
@Myk
Oh, you sorry bastard! I'm so glad I wasn't eating or drinking anything when I read that. As it is, my wife is sitting here at the kitchen table looking at me as though I've gone mental, because I can't stop laughing and have tears running down my face. Holy shit that was funny! Great way to start the day!....... Asshole! LMAO
I would just like to add something. Each word spoken or written or typed is a representation of the meaning of said word. So if I say "fuck" and you say "fudge" the meaning is exactly the same if the intent is the same.
In fact, that is how the word "fuck" came to be. People use to say "fuck" because to say "fornicate" or "cardinal knowledge" was dirty to them and "fuck" was polite. Originally it was an acronym which meant Fornication Under Crown Knowledge. Now it means the act of intercourse or as an intensifier or denote disdain.
So for those of you that THINK that you are doing the English Language and polite society a favor, you're not. You are just hurrying words like "fudge" into becoming "dirty words"!
@Mykcob4: Fornication Under Crown Knowledge
I've also heard of "fornication under common knowledge". These acronyms appear to be urban legends dating from the 1960s. "Fuck" has a much older and more glorious history. Similar words appear in most of the Indo-European languages, but it probably came into English from German or Dutch.
In the UK/New Zealand, the legal phrase was always "carnal knowledge". Do you call it "cardinal knowledge" in the States?
"Fuck you" may also be the origin of the word "Pakeha", which is New Zealand Maori for a non-Maori. Maori has no equivalents for 'F' or 'Y', so "pakeha" would be as close as they could get.
Do you think the Pope has Cardinal Knowledge of the Missionary Position? I fucking hope so!
I have worked on a wide variety of coding projects at this point in my life. And I have done some work on online chat components. When you code you have to consider many different angles and concepts most people do not consider. And even in something as simple as chat slight ethical concerns and moral dilemmas come up that a coder must deal with.
A client insisted that a chat filter to be set up, as part of their online product was a chat that kids had access to, and they also wanted to try and help insure the chat stayed "civil." Based on previous experience (and my online debate experience, heh!) I stated I could easily integrate a chat filter, but I recommended that default setting was for it to be "off." Even in chat frequented by children but with an easy to find and obvious way to turn it "on."
Why? Because it is impossible to create an effective chat filter that catches every possible derivation like f*uck, or f u c k or f.u.c.k. etc. Leaving it by default, on, some people, (especially kids,) will very quickly find a way to state a word like fuck that is well understood in meaning, but defeats the chat filter. Even adding endless additions to the chat filter. (sure you can also censor f.u.c.k and try but fail to keep up with peoples ingenuity on getting around chat filters.) But there are limits before the censoring begins to accidentally start filtering every day words. For example you cannot filter 4 letter words that end in "uck" duck, buck, suck, etc. There are endless examples of when a swear word filter trying to catch derivations people put up end up censoring other unintended non swear words.
A similar far more serious problem exist when it comes to trying to block people putting up website links. It is easy enough to disable hyperlinks, and filter anything following www. or ending .com .net .org etc. But again super easy to get around for the dedicated coders of spam bots. Or kids that think its fun to put in a troll redirect link to 2 girls 1 cup and the like.
In the end the client wanted a base default chat filter, defaulted to on as that is what their HR department insisted on. I complied, as the client is always right, even if they are not. It takes just a few seconds to add what is already written and freely available. And sure enough users of the chat just write around the filter almost immediately as it is a learned behavior from other futile attempts to censor online chat.
Months later, the client calls me up desperate for a solution to rampant cussing that goes on right around the chat filter. I explained to them it is not feasible with their budget to create a solution based purely on trying to stop every possible derivation of cuss words. They had a choice to make, but my suggested solution was: by default leave the chat filter off, have a chat filter option available for those that want it, and perhaps a bit insidiously, for those that have it on, (by their parents choice etc,) their own writing is not filtered to them, but is to everyone else. That way people are mostly unaware there content is being filtered to others, and they can not easily check for themselves what spellings/derivations get around the chat filter.
I slapped an updated looking UI on it, simply to make people think there was a major update, and to effectively, but gently prod the chat users and parents into their settings page where a nice big button of chat filter was now set to default "off", but they could turn it on if they like. It worked like magic, people using cuss words that get around content filters dropped the day the "patch" was released. Those that wanted to uh.. ahem.. "shelter" themselves, or their kids from big scary swear words were able to do so much more effectively. Complaints to the company about swear words dropped to almost zero, with only learned behavior that faded over time being the exception.
Plus I got to charge buckets of money for: "an emergency" fix that was easy to implement. :) Ka-ching on people insiting their way is the correct way.
Whoops, sorry that got long ;)
I am not picking on you mykcob4. Simply I am offering clarification for those who may lack the intelligence to figure out what I was talking about in my post about using "fudge" or "phooey." Actually you can say I am picking on myself...
Ever tried to tear a paper towel off the roll with a snap jerk? Only to have it hang on by that last 2 centimeters? To me that is trivial. Nothing to get angry about. Thus, I usually say "phooey" instead of "fuck" or "shit" or "damn it."
That is what I meant by something trivial and not worth the waste of a good filthy and foul word. Me, I LOVE those filthy and foul words. They can apply the correct amount of emphasis an just the right time. Much like me saying to FIG, "Go fuck your God."
Oops. Damn it. O, Damn. Damn it. O well, the anger got out some then I got angry when I couldn't stop...
rmfr
Why would one even care if someone said fudge instead of fuck? It just doesn’t seem like a big deal to me. It’s just a word to describe an emotion. Seems to me that if it gets the job done, what’s the difference? If somebody wants to use the word fuck like it’s a comma, fine. If someone doesn’t want to read it, walk on by. If someone else wants to use the word fudge, fine. If someone doesn’t like it, walk on by. I just don’t see this as a right/wrong situation.
So CyberLN has a problem with this thread. She said,
"Why would one even care if someone said fudge instead of fuck?
Well, let me ask you something. When someone speaks to you in whatever form that they do, do you expect them to be honest? I do. So if someone says "Fuck you" they are being completely honest. If they say "Fudge you" they are being deceitful.
I never said it's a big deal. It is merely an observation. A topic for IDLE discussion.
You suggested that when I read "fudge" I should walk on by, well why couldn't YOU do that to this thread. You aren't having fun with it as others here are. For some reason, if I post a thread, it seems to disturb you, yet YOU won't even take your own advice. Now I really don't care if you walk on by or not, but don't try and control what I comment on or tell me to ignore something. I explained WHY the fuck I started this thread in the first place. The fact that I started this thread seems to be a "big deal" to you. It's not a big deal. I didn't say it was a big deal. Does every thread have to be a big deal or meet YOUR FUCKING CRITERIA to be posted? Geesh, lighten the fuck up!
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