Friend of mine went thru some extreme personal issues that few would ever have to deal with. She came out the other side ok but to my dismay has enrolled in a healing course to become some pseudoscience energy healer. The course is expensive and she doesn't have a lot of money. I offended her because I told her it was all horse shit and She should do something useful and become a nurse instead.
She said it is scientific because quantum mechanics and energy and frequencies ....and stuff.
There is an idiot getting lots of international mainstream media attention called Charlie Goldsmith who doesn't even have a methodology to refute like other alternatives eg naturopathy.
he just heals with his mind, no contact, no potions nothing.
I believe this bullshit is gaining more traction as the mainstream media and science are becoming more feminised.
I know lots of hardcore theists that are first class doctors , engineers, surgeons, scientists etc because they compartmentalized their personal beliefs.
The sooner the mainstream media dies and leftist feminist thought gets relegated to the junkyard of bad ideas the better.
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@Terminal Dogma:
This faith healing boondoggle far predates feminism or the left-right political spectrum. It's a heartless scam designed to take advantage of the desperate and the weak-minded. The worst example I can recall was the psychic surgery idiocy that erupted in the 1970s. Sick people were flying to the Philippines to pay charlatans to do conjuring tricks on their bellies with chicken guts.
The great Catholic scam at Lourdes is another example.
It's nothing to do with feminism or leftism and everything to do with money.
For future reference, if you bluntly tell your friend that the course she'd paid a lot of cash for is nonsense, she's likely to get angry and defensive. A better strategy is to ask her to explain it, including how the energies, quantum physics, and frequencies work between her and her patients. Zero in on every detail until she reduces the whole thing to absurdity in her own words.
Yah subtlety is not my strong point. She needs my support and I blew it. I am old school and assume the role of protector of those important to me. Modern feminists resent the role of male as protector even when they need protection.
Will try your approach and try not to laugh in her face when she starts to talk about the cosmic healing energy of crysta bio fields and what not.
@Terminal Dogma: Modern feminists resent the role of male as protector
There's a scene in the British TV series "The Young Ones" in which some old fart proclaims "I'm a feminist and I want to protect all the sweet girlies." To which Vivien (the violent skinhead character) retorts "Protect? That's a new word for it."
You should think in terms of helping or advising. Leave protection to Al Capone and Donald Trump.
Algebe if you have ever been around physic violence I believe you would have a different opinion. Not saying the the course is violent but speaking more generally..
@Terminal Dogma: physic violence
Do you mean some form of telepathic Vulcan/Betazoid mind attacks, or traditional emotional/mental violence, like gaslighting?
I don't believe in the latter, but I've been on the receiving end of the former a few times. Men do it to men. Women do it to men. And vice versa. The only defense in my opinion is self-defense.
@Terminal Dogma: physic violence
Did you mean psychic violence or physical violence?
Mea t physical but both work.
Only TD could turn a story about religious pseudoscience quackery, into a rant about whether or not you have a dick.
@ Nyar
It does seem overly important to si, doesn't it?
@Terminal Dogma:
Why are you so worried about feminism and leftism? What has females and democrats done to you that has you so worried?
But yes rest of post you are right, friend of yours is wasting some serious dollars on horse shit.
@logicTW, I think they are two contemporary topics of concern way more impacting than the theist/atheist debate afor the near and long term.
I honestly think we are making big problems that are going to have a lot of negative consequences ...and some positive ones.
The fact is there is no real debate just one side implanting there agenda, Trump slowed it down a bit.
Feminist vs ... what patriarchal society? and the two major political parties, left and right, liberal versus conservative, are the two topics of concern greater than theist/atheist? What are you doing here then? You should be off on the political boards discussing the issues that "really matter."
I agree we are making big problems that are going to have lots of negative consequences, as well as some positive ones, although I think the issues that are causing major problems are probably different then the issues you think cause major problems.
The way you see it is there is no real debate? And it is all just one side "implanting" there (sic and sic) agenda. And how has Drumpf slowed down this? By pointing out all news other than fox news is fake news?
@ TD
Worry not, Wicca, New Dawn, Psychic energy and Healing in all its current and earlier forms of quackery have been in and out of vogue since Victorian times. Snake oil salesmen, Elixirs of Life, Electro treatment, color therapy all have long and dishonorable histories. Even "taking the waters" Mud Baths, Volcanic Spring baths have been touted as miraculous cures. Truth is, like the merciful jesus and magical mohammed, many people like to believe this horse shit and are even happier to give it money.
Its not a threat to your masculinity (even though you seem to think most things are) or your income (unless you fall for it), nor do you have to go about protecting damsels in distress unless ASKED, or the threat is physical and immediate.
@,TD: Your view on women is very distressing. Your argument against pseudoscience is just a red herring for your bigotry.
@chimp that big bowl of non sequiter your serving, can you serve some justification with that.
I can. Just read your posts in this thread.
http://www.atheistrepublic.com/forums/atheist-hub/must-be-dilemma-feminists
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