Why the religion of Atheizum?

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Lmale's picture
I suggest you read it again

I suggest you read it again or google why is genesis wrong.

Chuck Rogers's picture
God is quite powerful enough

God is quite powerful enough to create the universe in 6 literal days. The only reason you come to these conclusions are because of your world view.

Chuck Rogers's picture
You should do some research.

You should do some research. Did you know that approximately10 years ago there were confirmed over 25,000 archeological digs using nothing but the Bible for a guide, in which they found what they were looking for? Did you know that just last year they had on the news, an archeologist telling of how they had uncovered proof that the Philistines were a real people.

Lmale's picture
Oops damn iphone keypad

Oops damn iphone keypad

Lmale's picture
The answer should be obvious

The answer should be obvious even to you. Just like 99.9% of christians i was brainwashed by my parents and the church.

Chuck Rogers's picture
My brain needed to be washed

My brain needed to be washed it was very filthy. But brain washing is in no way how you become a Christian. I only went to church a very little bit when I was a young boy. And no one in my family were Christians. As I got older I hated going to any church for anything. Like weddings, or funerals, anything. I didn't and at that time I wouldn't have gotten married in a church. I didn't want my funeral to be in a church and definitely not a preacher there either. But God came to me when I finally came to the point that I wanted to know the truth no matter what that was. And He didn't meet me in church until after I got saved. What glory I've enjoyed since then, even in troublesome times.

Chuck Rogers's picture
A true Christian that has

A true Christian that has read through the Bible, will be able to show someone their birth certificate from the Bible scriptures, and there will be evidence in their lives to back it up. One major thing will be a change. No change no conversion.

sdkalsd's picture
Please, Chuck. You have been

Please, Chuck. You have been debunked multiple times, and even then, you still don't give up. Really? Are you that ignorant? But first, could you answer this question that everyone has been asking. ARE YOU EVEN AN EX-ATHEIST AND NOT A CREATIONIST!

Chuck Rogers's picture
First of all, no I have not

First of all, no I have not been debunked. There is nothing that anyone can use to prove God or evolution to be an absolute fact. Anything evolutionists try to use as their proof is not ironclad evidence for an old universe. Everyone of them have holes in them that could easily be refuted in a court of law with a completely neutral judge. You can say something is old, I can say God made it that way. You can claim carbon14 testing, I can say if carbon14 can be tested then it means that it is less than 60,000 years old because carbon14 can only be tested up to 10 half lives. You can research that. That means that considering they can still find carbon 14 in the bones of dinosaurs, they can't be older than 60.000 years, which puts a big damper on their millions of years ago garbage. As a matter of factbecause of all the holes in their evidence it's much easier to believe that God did it. Which brings me to my second point. Even if everything that evolutionists claimed was true that wouldn't prove there is no God. It could simply mean that that was the way He did it. But I will make it clear that I don't believe He did it that way. I believe the Bible, and not because I disregard evidence, because as I already stated there is no ironclad evidence for evolution. One thing I will say now about Christianity is that God designed His plan so that you have to believe by faith(but again as I've said before He made it so that no matter what you believe, you have to believe by faith). Yes I know that atheists believe they have the answer, or that someone else does which is basically what they all rely on. The key word I used was believe, which is another word for faith. Here is an example. If you have a car and the last time you turned it off, everything seemed to be fine. Then you need to go somewhere else and you get into your car with the expectation, or belief, or faith that it will start. But then it doesn't. Well it had to be that you believed that it would start or you wouldn't have even tried to start it. It was only because of your faith that made you try.

Another thing the definition of Atheism. You don't have to look up the definition, neither do you have to spend lots of time studying atheism or evolution to be one. All you have to do is disbelieve in God. That doesn't mean I haven't done enough research before I was saved to make an argument against God, though I had nothing more ironclad back then than anyone does today.

Another thing about Christianity. No matter who says that being a Christian is a state of mind, or that if you go to a Christian church, or that if you belong to a religious organization that claims to be Christian, does not make you a Christian. As I stated in an earlier post, that I wanted nothing to do with God. But He put someone in my path that made me start to think about the possibility that what if I am wrong or that those who I've been listening to, were wrong. It was when I truly wanted to know the truth no matter what the truth was that God showed me in a way that was beyond what a man could show me. No one that has truly been saved can explain how it all takes place outside of what the Bible says, but it is an something that can only be experience. And if it happens to you you won't be able to explain it either. Like I said I will give my testimony fully but that is a lot of typing, in which I have not typed it all out yet. But it is true that if you desire with all your heart (that is the core of your beliefs, not your literal heart that pumpes blood.) Then God who can not lie will show you the truth in whatever way He knows you need to see it. But it will not be without the willingness to turn from sin, which is repentance, and to turn to Christ. Again it just has to be a willingness, because you can't straighten out your life good enough by yourself. It takes Him to do it. The alternative is to wait until you die to know the truth, and if the Bible is correct then death is to late, and eternity is to long to be wrong. I promise that if you get to that place of just wanting to know the truth and God shows you it, the only thing that you will regret is that you didn't do it sooner.

Nordic Fox's picture
*Disbelief in all gods...

*Disbelief in all gods... whether hebrew or otherwise.

Atheists also tend to believe through varying degrees of evidence that there are no: ghosts, goblins, demons, devils, spirits (except alcohol), magic, pink fluffy unicorns, etc.

Honestly, I would say there are no souls, either. If our consciousness was detached, then brain damage wouldn't matter.

Lmale's picture
Lol you were never atheist

Lol you were never atheist you are through and through christian you even claim you can say who is a true christian.
You really expect people to believe you gave up logic reason and knowledge to follow a book that cannot verify a single word cannot even verify when the stories were written.
No atheist would willingly follow a religion without either evidence or brain damage, i said willingly because its likely some will have pretended to convert for marriage.
You keep asking for more and more evidence yet ignore the fact you dont have ANY.
Theres ZERO evidence for a world wide flood you should realise all it would take is one animal in the wrong place to give a world wide flood credibility and NONE have been EVER.
You clearly dont understand dating methods and got that bullshit from a creationist site try googling how do we discover fossil ages.

Chuck Rogers's picture
Your so called fossil ages

Your so called fossil ages are circular dating. Youget the age of the rocks by what bones are found in them and you get the age of the bones by what rocks you find them in. Really good science there. The biggest difference between your religion and mine is that God doesn't lie. He tells us that we have to believe by faith. But yours says it's true without ironclad evidence. So you must believe by faith.

Lmale's picture
Oh right so fossilised bones

Oh right so fossilised bones must be millions of years younger than the rock theyve fossilised into.
Do you even understand the process of fossilisation?
Erm my 'belief' like all atheists is that i wont accept your bullshit belief without evidence you have none zero zip negatory nill therefor my 'belief' is 100% accurate.

Lmale's picture
I found a site in 20 seconds

I found a site in 20 seconds that explains how dating methods works hmmm not a single mention of carbon14 moron. Since you will refuse to click the link ive done it for you:

The 67-million-year-old Tyrannosaurus rex skeleton known as Sue stands on display at Union Station on June 7, 2000, in Washington, D.C.
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When paleontologist Mary Schweitzer found soft tissue in a Tyrannosaurus rex fossil, her discovery raised an obvious question -- how the tissue could have survived so long? The bone was 68 million years old, and conventional wisdom about fossilization is that all soft tissue, from blood to brains, decomposes. Only hard parts, like bones and teeth, can become fossils. But for some people, the discovery raised a different question. How do scientists know the bones are really 68 million years old?
Today's knowledge of fossil ages comes primarily from radiometric dating, also known as radioactive dating. Radiometric dating relies on the properties of isotopes. These are chemical elements, like carbon or uranium, that are identical except for one key feature -- the number of neutrons in their nucleus.
Usually, atoms have an equal number of protons and neutrons. If there are too many or too few neutrons, the atom is unstable, and it sheds particles until its nucleus reaches a stable state. Think of the nucleus as a pyramid of building blocks. If you try to add extra blocks to the sides pyramid, they may stay put for a while, but they'll eventually fall away. The same is true if you take a block away from one of the pyramid's sides, making the rest unstable. Eventually, some of the blocks can fall away, leaving a smaller, more stable structure.
The result is like a radioactive clock that ticks away as unstable isotopes decay into stable ones. You can't predict when a specific unstable atom, or parent, will decay into a stable atom, or daughter. But you can predict how long it will take a large group of atoms to decay. The element's half-life is the amount of time it takes for half the parent atoms in a sample to become daughters.
To read the time on this radioactive clock, scientists use a device called a mass spectrometer to measure the number of parent and daughter atoms. The ratio of parents to daughters can tell the researcher how old the specimen is. The more parent isotopes there are -- and the fewer daughter isotopes -- the younger the sample. The half-life of the isotope being measured determines how useful it is at dating very old samples. Once all the parents have become daughters, there's no more basis for comparison between the two isotopes. Scientists can't tell whether the clock ran down a few days or millions of years ago. This means that isotopes with a short half-life won't work to date dinosaur bones.
The short half-life is only part of the problem when dating dinosaur bones -- researchers also have to find enough of the parent and daughter atoms to measure. Read on to see what it takes to date a fossil and what volcanic ash has to do with it.

Chuck Rogers's picture
This is funny did you really

This is funny did you really read this article? Did you miss these sentences?

Scientists can't tell whether the clock ran down a few days or millions of years ago. This means that isotopes with a short half-life won't work to date dinosaur bones

Lmale's picture
Did you miss the part where

Did you miss the part where it sais THATS WHY THEY ARENT USED

Chuck Rogers's picture
So what is your point with

So what is your point with the article? Tell me how else are bones dated? You say million year old rocks, how do you know how old the rocks are? There is no way of dating them either. It's just someone's theory of how old they are. Don't you get that? You said in another post that you don't believe (which is a really goofy statement), but why don't you go through a bunch of articles on evolution and see how many of them use the words believe, or theory. There most likely isn't one person that debates on this site that has done actual scientific research that they put out in some science magazine as proof that evolution is true. I'm not talking about just putting some thoughts down and because some editor liked what you said, put it in for a good fill in. I'm talking about actual recognition that you can prove evolution is true. Most likely you all just read what this person or that person has gotten something put in a magazine that they say within their article " we or I believe, or it is our or my theory", because they don't have that ironclad evidence to prove it.

Chuck Rogers's picture
Not because your so called

Not because your so called millions of years rock isn't millions of years old. And you have nothing that proves it to be. So your beliefs are sinking like being on sinking sand.

Lmale's picture
Your clearly out of your

Your clearly out of your depth so i found this site for you. Educate yourself.
And AGAIN im an atheist i dont have beliefs.
http://m.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-old-is-the-earth-radioisotope-da...

Lmale's picture
Another thing even the

Another thing even the majority of christians accept evolution is a fact.
Scientists debate how evolution works but evolution itself is a fact its been OBSERVED it has EVIDENCE it made SUCCESSFUL PREDICTIONS and for fuck sake its BEING USED TO MAKE MEDICINES BETTER so it has real world usage.
Finally fucking DOGS duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Chuck Rogers's picture
Dogs can only produce dogs.

Dogs can only produce dogs. How hard is that to see?

Lmale's picture
Dogs were fucking wolves from

Dogs were fucking wolves from chiwuwa to great dane all evolved from a common wolf ancestor.
What more evidence is needed that evolution is real. Since you have displayed inability to comprehend simple definitions of words ive posted the definition of evolution.
Evolution is the change in the inherited characteristics of biological populations over successive generations. Evolutionary processes give rise to diversity at every level of biological organisation, including species, individual organisms and molecules such as DNA and proteins.

Chuck Rogers's picture
When the week mind comes

When the week mind comes forth, it comes forth strongly doesn't it.
Again I will repeat, they are all the same kind. Anything that can breed (and breed is a proper way to say it) together is of the same kind. And just because a donkey and a horse can breed, simply means that they are close enough. But you will never get anything from trying to breed a cat and a dog, or by using a test tube. It will not work. If you take any two animals that are not the same kind, no matter how you try it, you will never ever get anything from it.

Lmale's picture
More proof you were never

More proof you were never atheist. THERES NO SUCH THING AS KIND thats theist bullshit.
The fact that they can breed does not mean they havent evolved my god your stoopid. I even gave you the definition of evolution and you still missed the fucking point.

Nordic Fox's picture
"Week mind"....

"Week mind"....

Wow, dude. Just wow.

Lmale's picture
Dogs were fucking wolves from

Dogs were fucking wolves from chiwuwa to great dane all evolved from a common wolf ancestor.
What more evidence is needed that evolution is real. Since you have displayed inability to comprehend simple definitions of words ive posted the definition of evolution.
Look ignoring all the other evidence (which you should be good at lol) think if that can happen in merely a few thousand years what do you think can happen in millions.
Evolution is the change in the inherited characteristics of biological populations over successive generations. Evolutionary processes give rise to diversity at every level of biological organisation, including species, individual organisms and molecules such as DNA and proteins.

Chuck Rogers's picture
What you don't get is that if

What you don't get is that if what you are saying were true, then there would be thousands of missing links living all the time. The process would continue at every level. Apparently you don't have the ability to understand that. You try to claim that just because there is diversity within a kind that it is the answer to everything. NOT. If you go back to one of my earlier posts I tried to explain this already and it keeps going over your head. I wish that we could post pictures (as long as there were restrictions on filth) because I have an excellent picture that shows this example very well. And maybe you would get it. Lol

Chuck Rogers's picture
You tell me I have no right

You tell me I have no right to say someone isn't a Christian, but here you go claiming that anyone who says they are a Christian is one. The difference is that you want to put them all in the category so that you can say those who claim it and yet do things as bad as child molestation, puts them all in the same criminal category.
What I say is that God is the one who came up with the plan of salvation in which is the only wayone can become a true Christian. And if they don't live a life of a Christian, that is to be like Christ, then you have every right to not accept their dime store profession.

Tell me when you read just the New Testament KJB, what does Jesus do or say that you can claim is wrong?
Could it be to love your neighbors as yourself?
How about pray for your enemies or those who despitfully use you?
What about if your enemies ask for a drink or something to eat, in which He says to give it to them. Maybe you have something else you don't like that He says? So tell me what He says that is wrong.

Lmale's picture
Right its been proven that

Right its been proven that until the age of 10-12 children are incapable of knowing their parents can be wrong. So until then they accept everything as fact.
Now say i was to tell my child harry potter was real and repeatedly tell him stories from say 5 to 10 id also take my child to weekly meetings where a big man in fancy clothes i told my child worked for harry potter and we listen to more repeated stories. I may even send my child to a book club after the meeting where other children that believe talked about the stories with my child. I may even send my child to a school for people that believe in harry potter.
Would it be any surprise that my child would believe harry potter was real despite there being no proof and evidence against it.

Chuck Rogers's picture
Again you do not become a

Again you do not become a Christian because someone tells you about Jesus, even if you are told about Him from the time you were a toddler until you grew up to be 100 years old. No matter how much you believe it in your head, until you accept Christ into your heart, you will never be a Christian.

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