Hey all. Newbie, here.

I am endeavoring to find a way and end this simple-minded question of “who created the universe?”.

This question always comes up whenever I start a discussion with believers. Even when our argument at hand is on a totally separate string, they can never seem to help it but to come back to this question as a last line of defence. You carry along and give them the scientific theories and possible explainations of how the big bang started, and, as you would guess, they’d say it’s illogical as there isn’t proof yet for what caused the bang.

I have been doing some research about the infinite-regress fallacy. Now, normally, I would just answer by asking why god is exempted from creation, but naturally they’d say that he’s god and he’s beyong my intellect. Moral of the story is we go nowhere. Hence, I came up with a different reasoning to tackle this issue and would like to know what you guys think.

Here it goes:

When you ask about who created the universe, it gives an answer prone to infinite regress.

Infinite regress fallacy tells us to stop the argument with an immediate truth that is indemonstrable, as per Aristotle. The Big Bang is the only immediate truth that we have thus far. Its initial bang hasn’t been demonstrated yet. Therefore, the Big Bang is our indemonstrable-immediate truth giving rise to all existing materials.

The logic I present here, with my simple understanding of philosophical concepts, should rule out God as a creator. God’s existence lacks evidence for him to be qualified as the immediate truth. That said, believers of God may not use the argument of “who created the universe?” as a logical reasoning to his existence.

I look forward to read your response.

Thanks.