I just read an interesting article on the vatican's history of out reach to atheists - Understanding Unbelievers. It started in 1969 after vatican II. The only problem was they couldn't figure out how to find atheists.
They will be having another conference in Rome in May 2019. I've signed up for the registration/ mailing list. I've got PLENTY to tell them.
Most of the researchers seem to be in the UK.
https://www.ncronline.org/news/people/fifty-years-later-catholic-church-...
Courtyard of the Gentiles = vatican secretariat to talk to unbelievers.
https://www.cortiledeigentili.com/contatti/
https://research.kent.ac.uk/understandingunbelief/events/current-events/
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Right off the bat this bunch of comedians have applied a negative label.
"un" as a prefix implies negativity.
So instead of any religious organization calling atheists "unbelievers", they should show a modicum of respect and call us as we desire to be labelled. Atheists.
The Roman Catholic church is not reaching out and attempting to understand, they are just putting on a mock drama of pretense.
Mrs. Paul Owczarek I am sure you would rather be labelled as you choose, such as "Roman Catholic", rather than "supporters of child rapists".
If that last statement outrages you, that was my intent. I want you to feel what I feel when a label is applied with self-centered arrogance and without concern or sympathy.
My label for myself is "Fleeing the Church in Terror!"
Outrage for child rapists is EXACTLY Correct. I think that you have missed my other posts. My whole vocation is exorcising the cult of Priapus from the vatican and driving out the pedophiles. The LAST thing I do is support them. I spend most of my free time looking for whomever I can complain to. I am up to over 2800 now. I swing by here because of the other protests against pedophilia and to raise more hell when the vatican does something even more stupid or dangerous than usual.
That is a very good point about the title. I will go make the point on their websites. Thanks for the ammunition.
You can also inform them that this atheist is very willing to conduct a dialogue. But it must be in a public setting accessible by all, at a table, with place cards. They can label me "Unbeliever", but I insist they must wear the placard "Supporters of Child Abuse"
If they wish to label me to their tastes it is only fair and equal that I am afforded the same privilege.
@ David
I gave you the one Agree I can give. Somehow we have to convince Nyar to script in larger number Agree buttons. I'd've easily clicked the 1M Agree button.
rmfr
EDIT: Can I hop along with you David? I want to use mine own placard labeled "Satanically Possessed Godless Heathen" as the Baptist Bible Belters in NC called me, as long as they use the same placard you suggest for them.
I don't have the authority (or access) to do that kind of thing.
@ Nyarlathotep
I already figured that. It was sarcasm. Everytime. Just my way of further emphasizing how many "actual" Agrees I would give if I could.
Thanks for the notification. It is nice to know for certainty.
rmfr
Send a group of atheists into the Vatican square, dressed up as altar boys and I bet they'd be found bloody quickly!!!!
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@Randomhero, I laughed a lot harder at this than I should have...
Or pregnant. Oh, wait a minute....... alter boys can't get pregnant.... Can they?
Maybe if they pray hard enough?!
Yes, yes, God moves in mysterious ways. Just because it makes no fucking sense at all and it has never fucking happened in the past does not mean God couldn't do it. He fucking made creationists after all.
I left the Catholic Church when I was 13. 46 years later I still don't give a shit about their concerns.
If any god existed, no one would need to be convinced of it. To try to convince someone would be an absurdity along the lines of convincing someone that the color blue exists. Or a mountain. Or rain. Therefore, just the fact that they want to "dialogue" (which really means proselytize -- or whatever the Catholic version of that is) is the giveaway that their god, in fact, does not exist.
They're too busy sucking up to Muslims (frankly I think the Pope is fear driven, not entirely unjustified, of violent attacks on Catholics)
The recent 'document' was so evasive, it puts corporate and political PR to shame.
For the OP! I might be a bit more interested in your concerns if you used a different user name. That you refer to yourself as Mrs. ......... Stand up on your own! I do not know who Paul ... is.
What did the reporter I talked to call it - Nom - >>= Battle name.
The whole point is to go by my "Church" Name - i.e. that I have no existence beyond a soul less appendage of my husband. The intent is to keep my house from being fire bombed.
He is the head atheist in the family.
That's funny Mrs Paul. I'll never ask your real.name again even though you know mine.
It is also Mrs. P.O.
I used the name as the author of my book.
Quite obviously its a pseudonym.
But even if not, there is no reason to judge.