The Subject of Religion is an Emotional One

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toto974's picture
People can't believe that the

People can't believe that the human brains can trick us in dozens of ways yet believe that the world was created in seven days.

arakish's picture
LMAO. But oh how true. rmfr

LMAO. But oh how true.

rmfr

LogicFTW's picture
The following just occurred

The following just occurred to me:

A "day" is measured in how long it takes for the earth to complete one revolution spinning on its axis, indeed, creation states light was created on the first day. But most versions state the sun, moon and stars were created around day 4. The sun, moon are required for the length of time we call a "day" So really day 1-3 was 0 days, because the term day did not have the necessary components for a day. Ofcourse the idea of light created before the sun is quite silly as well.

(Nevermind the fact that the earth "day" used to be A LOT shorter 4 billion years ago when the earth spinned on its axis much more quickly and the moon was a lot closer to the earth.) but then creation also relies on the entire universe only being 6-12k years old.

A quibble I suppose, but with so much emphasis placed on a "week," a day of rest, etc naming out 7 days even before there was a "day" points to just another large flaw with creation theory. And ofcourse they could not even get the length of the year right for a very long time. (Sorry guys, number of times the earth does a spin on its axis does NOT divide perfectly evenly equally into how long it takes for the earth to orbit around the sun. Ceasar back in 46 BC actually came up with the 365.25 days in a year, (and the leap year system) And they are the same empire and group of people that supposedly killed the biblical jesus christ.

It was not until much later did we have the tools to define a year more precisely, learning for one that: due to earth wobble and jupiters own orbit and its gravity influence the "year" can actually vary by as much as 20 minutes each year.

Now we have multiple definitions of a year, the 365.25 for ease of use, (with a leap year being "skipped" once every 100 years) The next being 365.259636 days for how long the earth takes to return to its closest point to the sun in its orbit per year averaged, to a much more complex and accurate system if we wanted to point a telescope or satellite to a fixed point in space.

All of which just makes the "exact" number of 7 days for a god to create everything (before there even was "day's") ridiculous.

 
 

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@LogicFTW

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Were you here when that creationist claimed that since the day could be divided into 24 hours, that it meant god had set that up. Good times :)

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Missed that one, that would

Missed that one, that would of been fun :)

arakish's picture
with a leap year being

with a leap year being "skipped" once every 100 years

Except when the year is evenly divisible by 400, then it is a leap year. That is why 2000 was a leap year. 2100, 2200, 2300 will not be leap years. 2400 will be. But I doubt the human species will be here that long...

rmfr

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Dunno who disagreed, (not me!

Dunno who disagreed, (not me!)

But I would like to think if we humans were still around at 2400 and still advancing, we would of abandoned the current time keeping including years to a more efficient and accurate system. Kind of like the step up from old english measurement system to the metric system.

Always bugs me as an atheist and anti-theist that we have a year system loosely based on abrahamic religion of major events. I understand the need to not change it to avoid confusion, by I figure if humans were still around and advancing we would be part borg and the need to avoid confusion and thus keeping an outdated and less accurate system would disappear as the computers would do all the "thinking" for us in those areas.

 
 

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Nyarlathotep's picture
Reminds me of this problem.

Reminds me of this problem.

arakish's picture
Yeah, I remember that one.

Yeah, I remember that one. Solved it even, without having to write a hundred years of calendars.

rmfr

Nyarlathotep's picture
wow, I used the "create

wow, I used the "create calendars" method.

arakish's picture
New Calendarial System

New Calendarial System

Each week has 6 days. Sunday is deprecated and truncated. Don't need either the religion or religious gatherings.
Each month has 5 weeks.

Thus, each month as 30 days.

At the end of the year, there is a 5-day (6-day on leap years) period where ALL holidays are celebrated between the years. Don't need christmas, thanksgiving, easter since those are religious and summarily deprecated and truncated. ALL religions would be prohibited from even speaking to any person until they are 24+ years old.

The work week is simple: four 10-hour days and you still get the two day weekend.

Sarcastic humor there.

rmfr

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@arakish

@arakish
I like it! less commuting for work too for the majority that need to do that. Ofcourse worker productivity studies show that people actually get more done in 8 hour shifts then they do in 10 hour shifts. Average adult ability to focus on a job drops off a cliff around hour 8, and even in steep decline starting around hour 4. (One reason for a lunch break around then to try and temporary arrest this process.)

I do not have a fixed schedule for my work, (part of why you will see me on these boards at random almost any hour of the day.) The bulk of my "jobs" is now crisis management, (for cyber security,) where the emergency does not abide by a schedule. I have to be very careful to not reach the point of fatigue myself where I end up doing more harm than good. Half of my job in these scenarios is telling people I just met to go home and get some sleep and be with their families, even if the sky is falling for the organization they work for that suffered a major crippling attack and/or theft on their networks. As people increasingly get in their own way when they put in crazy hours where they sacrifice sleep and "down time." I would say at this point the bulk of my job is being the "calm" in the storm and not get caught up in the non-constructive hysteria.

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So basically, from my old day

So basically, from my old day in computer hacking, you could be called a "White Hat Cyber Hacker"?

Me, I was a "grey hat" hacker. Meaning, I find ways to hack a computer, finding a weakness, then plugging it on my system, securing it even better. I ended up quitting my hacking when in 1995, I hacked the Wilmington Police Department mainframe. They brought in so many outside forces, I destroyed everything I used for hacking and quit permanently. And when I say I destroyed everything, I mean everything, router, modem, computer, software discs, EVERYTHING. Then the accident happened and destroyed by capability of writing computer programs on the fly. Now days, I can write a program, but it will take me forever to debug the thing.

rmfr

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