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Don't try and make your religion look better. It won't work.
Hitler used anything that helped him manipulate other people. Religion falls under this category. Whether or not he believed requires the operation of his mind.
Was there a point?
Why does Hitler get such bad press? Other leaders have caused their nations to kill just as many people, if not more.
There are historical figures who were responsible for megadeath, like Julius Caesar, and Genghis Khan. But Hitler's crimes are still in living memory. Anyone aged over 75 was alive during WW2, and countless families lost loved ones. And unlike localized monsters like Idi Amin, Pol Pot, and Saddam Hussein, Hitler caused death on a global scale. Also, Hitler's face is as recognizable as Mickey Mouse. Could anyone here pick Hideki Tojo or Emperor Showa (Hirohito) out of a police identity parade?
But the crime of murder can't be measured in numbers. Every person has only one unique life to lose. Despite what Stalin said, a million deaths isn't a statistic. It's a single tragedy repeated one million times.
Algebe,
"Also, Hitler's face is as recognizable as Mickey Mouse. Could anyone here pick Hideki Tojo or Emperor Showa (Hirohito) out of a police identity parade?"
The only reason people are pissed at Hitler is because he was a white man who specifically killed other whites on a global scale. He was in essence a race traitor. The Japanese killed just as many, if not more, people than the Nazis. But their victims were insignificant Asians. Heck, our favorite hobby was burning Japanese alive.
King Leopold II of Belgium caused the deaths of 10-15 million black Africans. He hardly gets a mention. Why doesn't anyone ask if he was a Catholic? If Hitler had killed black Africans instead of white Europeans he wouldn't be treated badly in popular culture.
Do you mean to imply he gets a disproportionately bad press? Only that's not very clear from your post.
I'd say his ideological views were obscene and his actions worthy of every ounce of vitriol we can pour on him. There are of course other mass murderers who get off lightly. Some even get Nobel peace prize like Henry Kissinger.
Life is filled with irony. If you're lucky it is anyway, if you're unlucky it's all too brief.
Towerpillar has left the building.
Just another wombat.
@Sushisnake: Towerpillar has left the building.
Towerpiller has been here a few times before.
I don't know what Xtians are looking for here, but it's definitely not the truth. The truth makes them run a mile.
@Algebe
I noticed he spelt it "piller" not "pillar" after I commented.
I think Christians come here to practise their proselytising. I wouldn't mind if we got a few who were good at it, but we get wombats, wombats with bags full of strawmen and a laundry list of ad homs, mostly. I suppose they don't have much else, theist apologetics being what it is. It's depressing. Maybe one day we'll attract some moderate, open minded theists who want to talk to us, not at us. Don't worry - I won't hold my breath.
@Sushisnake.
Too true. I hate wombats. Animal and human. I once saw a keeper at Adelaide zoo sexually abusing one.
* my jaw just dropped open*
@ Algebe.
You have totally flabbered my gasted!
Where's the mind bleach?
...bet he wasn't perverted enough to rape an echidna.
We were walking around the zoo with the kids looking at perfectly decent kangaroos, snakes, emus, crocodiles, etc. Then we went down a path that led through a sort of bush area and saw this keeper on a bench with an overweight wallaby perched on his knee, fingering its nether regions. The wallaby seemed contented, but the scene was utterly revolting. So my wife and I just turned in our tracks and ushered the kids out, fortunately before they saw the horror. As my dad used to say, the things you see when you haven't got a gun.
@ Algebe
Did you tell your kids that wombats are the only species that poops SQUARES? Yep, square poo...OOOoooowwww... also in captivity they have difficulty in doing that even more than in the wild?
"Wombat poo is cubic, not because the wombat has a square-shaped anus, but because it has a very long and slow digestive process, typically 14 to 18 days, which allows the digestive matter to become extremely dry and compacted. The wombat also has a very long digestive tract, allowing it to absorb the most nutrients and water from its food. The first part of their large intestine contains horizontal ridges that probably mould the poo into cubes, whereas the last part of the large intestine is relatively smooth, allowing the cubic shape to be maintained. The highly compacted nature of the poo means that the rectum is unable to contour the poo into the more usual tubular shape."
The keeper was more than likely massaging the Wombats anal glands to express the necessary lubrication poor bastard!
I am worrying about your thought processes though.... LOL!
"The keeper was more than likely massaging the Wombats"
OI! Spoiler alert, I was hoping to watch the video on YouTube later....
...not, oh and can I just say, ewww....I can scratch watching Wombats poo off my bucket-list anyway, dear oh dear and I thought religion was disgusting.
@Sheldon
yeh, square poo takes the "intelligent design" right out of the basket!
Well precisely, you'd have to assume an omniscient could foresee a few problems there. I mean a chicken's egg might have a semblance of a defence for an intelligent designer, but square kak on the other hand, that's downright sadistic.
@ Sheldon
Square poo...my mind still boggles..like when I found out that Platypus were venomous...and plate sized Huntsmen were friendly, along with giant (18 inch) long praying mantis.LOL
And that tom cats penises were barbed...who the fuck thought of that shit? Hmmm? Intelligent design? HA!
" The keeper was more than likely massaging the Wombats anal glands to express the necessary lubrication poor bastard!"
I wonder if that's considered a high skill or low skill in the workplace? The keepers should get danger money, at least. Wombats aren't small animals. An affronted wombat could do considerable damage to a clumsy keeper.
@ Sushi
I think if was having cubic poo I would welcome any distraction, especially an anal massage.
As I said to Sheldon, having read and confirmed this tonight it really fucks up the "intelligent design" argument!
@Old man shouts: Wombat poo is cubic
There's so much interesting and useful information in these forums.
So god in his infinite mercy and wisdom created a creature with a fucked up digestive system, and then gave man fingers and opposable thumbs so we could help that poor animal to pump out poobic cubes. I saw in a YouTube video that the odds of a relationship like that occurring naturally are 1 in a googleplex. In fact it's so unnatural that only god could have thought of it.
@ Algebe
I know...when I first read this about wombats years ago I was like "fekking what'? I always thought those cubes on odd places round the golf course were baits left by the rangers but:
"In addition to scent markings, or scents produced by the hormones that animals release, wombats leave their cube-shaped scat as territorial signposts on the tops of rocks and logs. That distinct shape is beneficial since the flat sides of the cubes keep the droppings in place on their precarious locations"
Yep someone's god either has fucked up the whole design thing or has an unpleasant sense of humor! Ken Ham, please explain?
I wonder if angels poop pyramids?
@Dio Re: "I wonder if angels poop pyramids?"
I thought they pooped cotton candy and tinkled lemonade.
Tin-man,
"I thought they pooped cotton candy and tinkled lemonade."
Dammit, you've gotten your demons and angels mixed up again! Demons poop cotton candy and tinkle lemonade. Angels poop pyramids. And those 6 wing angels poop really large pyramids. Ghosts poop invisible crap. Zombie crap is always being resurrected. Yeshua's crap floats. Moses' crap is as hard as a rock. Mohammed's crap has lice.
@Dio Re: Poop
Well, I'll be..... You just learnt me a bunch of new poop today. Mind if I get out of the corner and take off the dunce hat now?
LOL...OP reminds me of the little dutch boy who sticks his finger in a small leaky hole in the dike (jokes welcome), all while the water is about to breach the top. OP, this mass murderer and stain on humanity, was christian, not atheist. He was firmly camped on the christianity side of the christian / atheist battle lines.I wonder if he received absolution before he went bye bye. Hmmmmm.
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