Satan vs god

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mykcob4's picture
Since there is no god (never

Since there is no god (never was) and there is no satan (never was) it just doesn't matter.

AJ777's picture
Or since you cannot find an

Or since you cannot find an example of Jesus being a hypocrite as sinner suggested........

mykcob4's picture
No apologist AKA AJ777. I can

No apologist AKA AJ777. I can cite many examples but they would all have to come from a bible as there is no record of jesus other than the bible.
I'll cite them as soon as you credible evidence there is a god.

algebe's picture
AJ777: "you cannot find an

AJ777: "you cannot find an example of Jesus being a hypocrite"

When the centurion asked Jesus to heal his sick slave, he did so without once upbraiding the centurion for owning a slave. So tell me, what was Jesus' position on slavery? Did he oppose it or approve of it?

AJ777's picture
Not addressing the indentured

Not addressing the indentured servants societal status does not equate to condoning kidnapping and forced slavery. This servant appeared to have a boss that truly cared for him, highly valued him. Jesus was a servant, Christians are to be followers of Jesus, so also should serve.

English Standard Version
Jesus Heals a Centurion’s Servant

1After he had finished all his sayings in the hearing of the people, he entered Capernaum. 2Now a centurion had a servanta who was sick and at the point of death, who was highly valued by him. 3When the centurionb heard about Jesus, he sent to him elders of the Jews, asking him to come and heal his servant. 4And when they came to Jesus, they pleaded with him earnestly, saying, “He is worthy to have you do this for him, 5for he loves our nation, and he is the one who built us our synagogue.” 6And Jesus went with them. When he was not far from the house, the centurion sent friends, saying to him, “Lord, do not trouble yourself, for I am not worthy to have you come under my roof. 7Therefore I did not presume to come to you. But say the word, and let my servant be healed. 8For I too am a man set under authority, with soldiers under me: and I say to one, ‘Go,’ and he goes; and to another, ‘Come,’ and he comes; and to my servant, ‘Do this,’ and he does it.” 9When Jesus heard these things, he marveled at him, and turning to the crowd that followed him, said, “I tell you, not even in Israel have I found such faith.” 10And when those who had been sent returned to the house, they found the servant well.

algebe's picture
And why do you think the

And why do you think the author of Matthew used the Greek word "pais" to refer to the slave? Were you aware that the "highly valued" phrase is translated from the Greek word "entimos," which is the origin of the English word "intimacy"?

So if a soldier approached you and said his slave boy with whom he was intimate was ill. Please cure him. What would be your reaction?

AJ777's picture
Where does it say boy? The

Where does it say boy? The word means highly valued as you said. Nice try.

algebe's picture
AJ777: "Where does it say boy

AJ777: "Where does it say boy?"

Pais. The word usually has that meaning.

Do you dispute that the boy was a slave?

AJ777's picture
Perhaps there’s a reason the

Perhaps there’s a reason the trained biblical translators chose to translate that word as servant and not boy. Apparently the word can mean son, servant, man, maid, girl, depending on the context. In Matthew 12:18 Jesus was referred to as a Pais. Jesus was not a boy, the word does not usually have that meaning.

Burn Your Bible's picture
if jesus didn't follow

if jesus didn't follow something against gods 613 commandments in exodus does that not by definition make him a hypocrite? if he really is god?

AJ777's picture
No it doesn’t.

No it doesn’t.

AJ777's picture
Mycob4, I’ll consider that

Mycob4, I’ll consider that evidence you can’t find an example. Burny, if you were old enough to have children would you have to follow all of the same rules that they do?

mykcob4's picture
What you "consider" is of no
Burn Your Bible's picture
Well first I have a child and

Well first I have a child and one thing that I try is to be as little as a hypocrite as possible... so for example my wife doesn't want our son to cuss, but both my wife and I have cussed in front of him. So the other day he said shit... so I threw him in the basement and torchered him for all of eternity!!!! Oh sorry I was reading the Bible and got side tracked. No I explained to him why people cuss and why others think it's bad. But he will not ever be punished for saying a bad word because we also use bad language.

chimp3's picture
Jesus the Myth was a

Jesus the Myth was a hypocrite when he said to help the poor. Then he told his male followers to leave their families and follow him. An unmarried, unsupported woman with children in barbaric Palestine would have what for options? Open her own cafe or clothing boutique? Go tonight school and get a nursing degree?

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