Judging from the previous conversation I was having, presenting Quranic texts does not help when discussing scientific findings with atheists. Therefore I shall leave the Islamic texts aside and speak in pure science. But you must know that the origin of the discoveries were from the Quran. Allal is all knowing.
When explaining why the sun is currently OBLATE SPHEROID OR OBLATE ELLIPSOID, I attached an image for a section of the Carina nebula which explains in pictorial form where the origin of planets actually is, and therefore many DEDUCTIONS were made.
1. If a search is made in google for the earth's rotation around the sun, the results will always show that the earth is slightly above the sun's equator. Yet the image of the Carina nebula shows the position of the planets to be slightly below the sun's equator from where the hydrogen "umbilical cord" is attached.
Based on cosmological understanding of the position of the planets to their given stars, North & South are what they are, but the Carina nebula changes all that. The actual position puts North in South and South in North.
2. The planets in our solar system do not come in a straight line as explained by cosmologist, rather they are split into 2 sections on the right and left of the sun. Also, according to the picture, the moons always precede the planets they accompany, which means that the first day on earth whether it was completely formed or not has either a full eclipse or a ring eclipse depending on which side of the sun the earth was placed. Most likely a ring eclipse due to the outward perforation force depicted by the white "sonic" arched curves in the outermost edged.
The Carina nebula would suggest that the actual number of days on earth would be determined by the appearance of a ringed eclipse every year (354 days) rather than the comparison of the position of earth with a distant star as Julius Caesar did to prolong the days of his workforce (365 days).
3. To know the exact time which corresponds to the first day on earth, cosmologist need to get all planets aligned on the left and right of the sun + have a ringed eclipse on earth.
This subject is a dense one and I can't think of any other deduction for the time being, but I'm sure everything will emerge with the atheists that JUST CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH.
لا إله إلا الله
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This could not be anymore accurate of the ineptitude of the original post.
This isn't even wrong, it is that laughable.
Holy shit man... you are the community that stresses that numbers and science are the ways of life
You seriously have issues man.
Laugh all you want
Of which you offered neither.
Why don't you give me a scientific rebuttal if your so smart?
You're all talk yourself
Sure, give me something scientifically cogent to refute or rebuke and I shall.
The fact you cannot differentiate between spheroid and elippsoid is quite staggering just to begin with.
The rest is nonsensical drivel you are trying to interpret from the picture of a nebula over 6,500 light years from Earth.
To give you an idea of just how far that is, Alpha Centauri (our nearest star) is 4.2 light years away.
I think someone has watched too many ridiculous youtube videos as oppose to actually studying physics, cosmology or anything vaguely relevant.
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So you are saying that because the nebula is 6,500 light years away, that makes my statements false?
Julius Caesar made the number of days in a year 365 based on a distant star too (can't find it now, will have to do too much reading) but I'm assuming for the time being that it is the same star you are talking about.
I'm a pure Arab man, you should at least feel proud that I'm speaking your language fluently.
What do you know about cosmology?
What is stellar nucleosynthesis if your so literate?
Explain for me how a planetary nebula is formed?
I was would tell you all about that, but you wouldn't get it... your just a follower.
@Mohamed Re: "I'm a pure Arab man, you should at least feel proud that I'm speaking your language fluently."
....*snicker*.... *snort*.... *guffaw*.... *clasping hand over mouth*.... *face turning red*... *tears streaming from eyes*.... *snortle-snortle*.... BWAAAAAaaa-haaaaaa-haaaaaaaa....!!!!!.... *curled up in fetal position on floor laughing out of control*......
No, The point is that the image in question is dubious at best giving telescope technology and that obviously looking like a mock up you see on religious sites.
Wrong again.
It was the Egyptian's from observing Sirius, but that's ok you did not know that, it is not like Egypt is relatively close for you or that Sirius is the brightest star in the night sky.
Julius Caesar improved upon the knowledge and the calendar, making it slightly more accurate in the process.
I couldn't care if you are Arabic, Nordic, African or an alien from the planet Zog, when you are wrong, you are wrong.
Evidently far more then yourself, But it also happens to be my field of study.
Simply put, It's the theory of how chemical elements are created via nuclear fusion in stars.
This question implies that there is one option but that would be wrong.
You have some that are formed from stars and others formed in stella gases.
And no, it's self evident that you have no idea what you are talking about in the slightest and have yet to demonstrate how this links in with your theism or our atheism.
Yet another case of you being unable to explain anything coherently and resorted to Ad Hominem attacks when your credulous ramblings get pulled up and questioned.
@Mohamed
"What do you know about cosmology?"
I know a heck of a lot more about that subject than you do. Based on the content of your posts, it becomes very obvious you have read a few items on different subjects, and have decided you are an expert on the field.
let me just show you ...
Based on our current observations and conclusions, the furthest back we can speculate is the beginning of our universe. At some time there was a singularity, a mass of practically zero dimensions but with incredible heat. We do not know where it came from, and that is just honest science.
That singularity expanded at a ferocious rate, and during that period energy began ot be converted to weird matter. That matter later evolved into what we now define as hydrogen and helium.
Okay, everyone else seems to get a razor, so...
CyberLN’s razor: A nice vinegrette must be served with any word salad.
CYBER WINS THE RAZOR CONTEST!!!! ..... LMAO.....
You are the only 3 from the 20 something viewers who actually said something... and it's baby back B.S.
@Mohamed
In case you were wondering, I am using Tin-Man's Butter Knife. And I must say, you are making it incredibly easy. Thanks... *grin*...
@CyberLN, I almost gagged mid laugh whilst drinking my hot chocolate in the middle of Costa reading this! LOL.
Simply B-E-A-U-T-I-F-U-L!!!!!!!!
Finally I found it. Your Razor has been officially added me lady. We are now up to nine. Providing one loosely accepts Tin-Man's Butter Knife since his wife wisely does not allow him to handle sharp objects...
rmfr
@mohamed
Running from your first op because you can't handle the heat. Now you start a new op, how soon before you leave this one?
Not at all
I'm not gonna stick to one subject
@mohamed
So you run like a coward to the next op.
You are a troll.
Re: OP
*blank stare*.... Uhhhh.... Before reading any other responses, I just want to know..... *corner of eye starting to twitch*.... What... The... Fuck... did I just read?... *blink*... *blink*.... *blank stare*....
Ya know, as badly as I would like to call Mohamed a troll, I'm just concerned about how much of an insult it would be to all the other trolls out there. It is quite the dilemma...
Go find a heart
@Mohamed Re: "Go find a heart"
No worries. I know exactly where it is. I loaned it out to my buddy Leo a few days ago. The furry bastard just hasn't brought it back yet.
Then maybe you could speak sense when he gives it back... till then you ain't nothing but a blabbing waste of time.
Sense is answered with sense... not empty ridicule
@Mohamed Re: "Then maybe you could speak sense when he gives it back.. Sense is answered with sense... not empty ridicule."
Nah. I would have to borrow Straw Dude's brain to speak any sense. As it is at the moment, I really have no need to bother him about it. However, whenever you DO start speaking any sense, please let me know and I will be happy to go procure it from him for a couple of minutes. Figure it shouldn't take much longer than that with you.... *smooch*....
@Mohamed
You need to prove that the author/s of the Quran expressed knowledge - i.e. something they knew to be true.
I explained in the beginning of the topic that verses don't make sense to you guys. Everything I said is in the Quran... and if it satisfies your intellect, I'll state them all.
How do you know that the Quran wasn't written by aliens?
It doesn't say so
That doesn't mean it wasn't written by aliens. Is that really the only reason you think the Quran wasn't written by aliens?
Oh awesome, more bollocks to side track from the fact that none of these oxygen thieves can prove the magical cosmic wizard exists.
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