@ The Intruder

"we're the one and only global family of peace loving worshipers today!"

I suggest you read some history, because millions and millions of people have been killed in wars started by religion. For example, Cromwell and the Crusades.

Your statement is in direct opposition to reality.

@The Intruder

The ATHEISTS will soon gain control over the United Nations, they will eradicate religion from the face of the earth.

Uh... You know the UN is mostly controlled by the USA right? The same USA that had a black president, almost had a female president (won the popular vote by over 2 million votes,) but have yet to see an atheist even be considered to be accepted by eithir major party to run for president?

We are so far away from any sort of major position of power being held by someone that is openly atheist I do not expect to see an atheist president for US or any other major office of power within the next half century.

Your religion wants to vilify atheist because of the threat they pose, not to actually hold any offices of power, but that the atheist position, (not a theist,) is so dangerous because ultimately no religion has any sort of actual reasonable counter or response to that position. It strips away the "absolute" authority that religions force onto their followers for total unquestioning loyalty and compliance. Why do you think you theist fear atheist more then islamic extremism that has real world impact and those people are all too happy to kill you for what you believe?

@ The Intruder

"But i have been to so many countries around the world, and i know that without religion the earth wil be a total mess!"

Then you obviously have not visited predominately atheist nations such as Finland and Japan, where the crime rate is very low.

Then you have not visited Brazil, where religion is powerful, and so is violent crime.

Then you have not compared atheist versus theistic areas with crime. FYI, heavily religious nations or regions are the worst concerning crime, rape, and ignorance.

@Blessed Intruder Re: "For your information, i'm in my fifties!"

...*cringing*... *sucking air through teeth*... Duh-oh!... Ouch. You poor thing. Bless your little heart... *shaking head sadly*... Wow, dude, IF what you say is true, I am amazed you were actually willing to admit it in public. Because at this point, you would have been better off with everybody thinking you are a juvenile who doesn't know any better. Although, to be completely honest, I have my doubts about your proclaimed age. Not that it really matters, though. Even with the language/translation complications put aside (guessing English is not your primary language), you have clearly demonstrated you are here only for the sole purpose of stirring up bullshit in a very childish manner. Lucky for you, though, that is an area in which I excell. Basically, guys like you are simply a delightful form of cheap entertainment for me... *chuckle*... So, please, by all means, continue slinging your nonsense about in your wanton manner until you slip up enough to get booted. I welcome the amusing distraction... *mischievous grin*...

Re: "...have you thought deeply why someone poor (police) will carry weapons to protect the rich while himself and his family need the money?"

... *addressing forum regulars*... Show of hands, please. Who all would like for me to educate this little fella about the police? Or would it even be worth the effort?... *chuckle*...

@ Intruder

My country Australia is currently governed by a devout Pentecostal Christian by the name of Scott Morrison.
When he was immigration minister he enacted and continues to support the most racist, inhuman and illegal treatment of genuine refugees, ignoring their legal status and treating them as criminals, when they have done nothing more than plead for asylum.
For many years his government, most of whom claim to be Christian, has supported indefinite detention in prison camps on remote islands off the northern coast without proper housing or health facilities in direct contravention of UN Refugee provisions to which this nation was a signatory.
The lack of hope, the sense of abandonment these people have suffered is evident in the prevalent numbers of suicides and deaths through lack of medical attention. Children have been born and grown up in these gulags; they display profound psychological problems.
You suggest that without Christian dominionism the earth will become a hell.
Your fellow Christians and theists have already achieved that goal, right now, right here in Australia.
And I have not yet even mentioned the draconian policies directed against the poor, the unemployed, the sick, the handicapped and against political and religious opponents that this so-called Christian government has and continues to attempt to legislate.

And I could detail the atrocities of the North Korean theocracy or the barbarous and unjust punishments metered out by those countries who support Sharia Law or basic Koranic teachings, who enforce beheadings, mutilations for transgressions against the Koran. The recent Turkish legislation forcing female victims to marry their rapists in accordance with the wisdom of Allah, is a serious retrograde slide away from the free secular society envisioned by Attaurk.

In the meantime, in neighbouring New Zealand, the current atheist non-racist, humane, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern, known world-wide for her earnest sympathy and support for victims of recent white supremacist mosque murders, has offered to take all the refugees, regardless of colour or creed, currently interned illegally by the Morrison government of Australia to live as citizens in her country and yet the Morrison government continues to refuse to let them go.

Your risible comments on Christian political benevolence and the inherent evil of atheists, like most of your comments on everything else, are also uninformed, negative, egocentric, and reflect the sort of theism that was popular in the latter Dark Ages.
Your sanctimonious ignorant piety is in tatters.

edited after reflection

@ The Intruder:

You said: "My friend, the earth will become a hell if there is nothing giving them a hope or promise of a better life here or elsewhere."

The Earth is hell, just look around, and nothing is giving anyone hope or a promise of a better life, here or elsewhere. This is not the sort of place an God would create. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE FUCKING POINTING OUT!!

Thanks for playing the game, try again tomorrow.

@cognostic

Good post.

Whenever I see the agreeable sentiments such as yours expressed, I am put in mind of the religions of ancient Egypt, especially the cult of Amun. At one time the cult was richer than the pharaoh. The history of Egyptian religion can be traced back to 3000 bce, at least.

I have a similar mental reaction when anyone speaks of our present economical and political systems as if they are a matter of natural law and so will last forever. Just as individual human life is very temporary, so too are all of our works.

It bemuses me that people tend to think Shelley's poem Ozymandias is only about Ramses the great.:

I met a traveller from an antique land,
Who said—“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
And on the pedestal, these words appear:
My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.”

In contrast ,Horace Smith's "Ozymandias" is about as subtle as an enema.

In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
The wonders of my hand."— The City's gone,—
Naught but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder,—and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.[10]

Intruder, what do you think of the coverups of sexual assault in your JW organization?

@Master Intruder-san Re: "You guys are not getting my point."

Oh, don't worry. Rest assured we are definitely getting your "point". Problem, though, is your "point" is about as sharp as a pound of warm chicken livers.... *sudden look of realization*... Hmmm... Speaking of chicken livers, I'm getting hungry... *scampering off toward kitchen*...