I believe that all religions have been born and built out of good intentions, love, trust and necessity.
However looking at how most of the major religions have evolved over time, can we now say that all religions have been corrupted to some extent or other by man?
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I don't think it's the religion that is corrupt. It's rather the people in it. at least some of them.
I think that religion is good when it's something more intimate and personal, but when it becomes structurated the corruption is innated in it...
All religions are ruined by corruptive ideas. No religion that i know of is witout a business side to it. There is always a hidden agenda that they dont want you to be aware of. And if they promise a good enough emotional outcome of relative peace of mind, most people buy into the scam and dont even bother question it.
Again, it's not the religion that is corrupt. It's the people who are running it. And I'm talking about the old, long established religions, because obviously these new ones (I don't want to mention names) are made for business.
Yes, is someway you're right...it's not the idea of religion that's corrupted, but the people who are involved in it...
I think the bigger and more powerful an organisation becomes, the more susceptible it can become to corruption/manipulation. Power attracts those who want it. And some of those who want it want more of it and will do anything to get it or hold onto it. I don't know if all religions are corrupt because I haven't studied them. I don't even think it's religion per se, same way money in itself isn't evil, but the actions of the person who uses it and what it can be used for. I feel it's the people (some of them) who are corrupt and have perverted the basis on which the religion was initiated.
Why is no one mentioning the fact that all religions are myths? All are man's (mostly early man's) attempt at science, philosophy, etc. The needed an explanation for the world around them so they invented a dictator in the sky, who sends earthquakes and floods and tsunamis to punish them for their wrongdoing.
"Why is no one mentioning the fact that all religions are myths?"
How can you say that it's a fact?
"The needed an explanation for the world around them so they invented a dictator in the sky, who sends earthquakes and floods and tsunamis to punish them for their wrongdoing"
Why would God be a dictator?
Religion is corrupt in way that it is claiming the welfare of a bunch of people, or a specific group, some one else from that group should be the part of that religion or he should be beheaded in simplest terms. We the republic of atheists say , it is not just about atheists it is about care.
You shouldn't generalize. Not all religion ask for money. I'm pretty sure you can become catholic or Muslim without paying a dime to anyone.
In my view, the hierarchical systems that huge organisations like both governments and religious organisations possess create this 'corruption' because the higher your place in one of these systems, the more power you wield over more people. It's why I believe in an anarchistic society and it's why I believe that organised religion is a brain-washing control method. I find the most enlightened believers are those (of course, speaking from experience) who are independent of the Church, regardless of whether they are Christian, Muslim, or so forth. A social hierarchy breeds a need for power in many people, and if these groups did not possess hierarchy but perhaps a 'casteless' (for lack of a better term) organisation, I feel strongly that there would be much less corruption. Jesus himself saw these great bloated organisations as harmful, and treated his disciplines as equals (in fact, all people), not as 'lessers'. Just my views though.
I'm not sure we'd be better off with an anarchistic society.
Not really the religion...its those practising the religion that has used things of the worldly appearance to corrupt the Holy worships and Acts of the religion. Just my point of view.
It's the people, or some people in it, that have become corrupt. It's the power and money. When you know you have the power and money, the temptation is very strong.
That's a really optimistic view you have on religion, I like that!
I on the other hand think that many religions, if not born, were popularized out of desperation to control people, desire for power, and outright greed. I don't think they became corrupt, I think the overall concept is intrinsically corrupt.
The corruption starts with believing something that is not real. When this is the starting place it can ony go down hill.
The fact of the matter is, "They all begin with a lie." If they are being built on a foundation of lies, how can they be anything but corrupt?
THE RELIGION ............ / ............ THE LIE
BAHAI -------------- one God; the unity of mankind
Christianity ---------- Several Gods in One God but Based on the teaching of Jesus Christ; one of the gods.
Hinduism ------------- The soul is immortal, on the death of the body it transmigrates to a new life on earth.
Islam ---------- The final religion, Created to correct Jews and Christians who got it wrong. One God Allah.
Jainism ------------ No Gods but salvation (liberation from the cycle of birth and death) by perfection through successive lives, and non-injury to living creatures.
Judaism ----------- They are the chosen and have a special covenant with God and 613 special laws.
Sikhism ----------- There is one God, serve God by leading a life of prayer and obedience. The soul then passes through various existences and will become one with God.
Zoroastrianism ---------- Ahura Mazda (Lord of Wisdom), the all powerful and perfect creator, grants humans Vohu Manah – a clear rational mind with which to dispel ignorance.
Atheism --------------- Please show us the evidence you have to support any of this garbage? I just don't believe until you show me the evidence.
Agnostic -------------- There isn't any evidence to support any of this garbage.
Have you ever noticed that in every religion, you must comply...
Comply to many things, or comply to one thing... but comply nonetheless.
No, religion as "people organized around a set of beliefs and laws" is not good from the start, as these beliefs have no evidence for them and the laws are full of prejudice.
not all religions have been corrupted. christianity, budhism, sikhism, hinduism still remain uncorrupted and have evolved. but islam was corrupt to begin with and is now showing all its feathers
That's the most idiotic statement in the world today.
CORRUPT: having or showing a willingness to act dishonestly in return for money or personal gain.
There is no religion on the planet that is unwilling to lie to make a buck. They are all Corrupt and Islam was a corrupt faith that tried to fix the corruption in Judaism and Christianity. You can not begin a religion with an amoral corrupt foundation and expect it not to be corrupt. All religions make promises and tell lies SO THEY CAN MAKE MONEY.
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Well what other way is there where people will give you money, and lots of it for simply lying all the time? From collection baskets to the real jackpot, portions of wills and estates after one dies. Plus you get to do it tax free and have the government protect your right to lie. And the lie gets to live on because no one will think critically about it, and all the promises are in the afterlife or untestable "supernatural."
It is probably the oldest and greatest con in the history of mankind. And ofcourse there is many different variations of it, a con this good is going to be tried all over. Plus for extra ease and bonus points you can get your own "sheep" as the shepherd to try and enroll others into your money making scheme.
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OP: Have all religions become corrupt?
No. They have always been corrupt. They are all concoctions of legends and lies used to frighten and control people and trigger violence between communities. They are also closely linked to various sexual abnormalities, especially pedophilia, rape, vriginity worship, and enforced celibacy.
The Question: Have all religions become corrupt?
No.
Religions started corrupt with the corrupt thoughts of the megalomaniacal psychotic sociopaths who began using religion as a means for them to obtain wealth without having to work for it.
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