https://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/miracle-as-man-crashes-car-of...
"WITNESSES have described a Sunshine Coast man's survival as a "miracle of God", after he crashed 100m down a cliff and walked away."
This man was on his way home from church when he drove off a 100m (300ft) cliff. Maybe if he'd prayed a little harder, god would have kept his car on the road.
How come god gets the credit when people survive but never the blame when people die? I think his survival is a miracle of seat belts, air bags, and crumple zones.
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God, slouched on his throne muttering, "Bugger, damn airbags, worse than iron chariots."
It is a miracle. Praise Thor
@MCD Re: "Praise Thor"
Nuh-uhhhh..... Praise Zeus! If it weren't for Zeus we wouldn't even have a Thor. So there!
I agree and when I ask that same question to believers, they tell me it is the devil's fault and we have free will, blah, blah, blah.
My parents, and an aunt and uncle were severely injured in a car crash one Sunday morning drive. Unfortunately, the young man in the other car perished. And yes, he was coming from church.
The point is that for each "miracle" dozens, maybe even thousands do not enjoy a "miracle" and suffer and die.
This is just one more example where theists cherry-pick information, ignoring all sides of the argument. Then if you ask any of them why one individual had a "miracle" while many others just as deserving died, any response is shrouded in BS.
that hurts when you don't have any insurance with that car right? you'd probably blame god "why have you forsaken my car god why??"
I would be pretty annoyed if I was on the team of engineers that personally spent many thousands of hours incrementally improving car safety systems through hard work. And then, when everything works as you designed it for, even in such an extreme situation, the credit goes to some persons version of god instead of the work the automobile safety engineers that designed the car to protect its occupants, (crazy as they may be,) so well.
Then again, I probably would write the person(s) off as crazy, and continue to collect my paycheck and do the real work to make the world a safer place.
Well said, and again your assertion has the advantage of being supported by all the evidence.
I can see reason to organise a get together of engineers, hospital doctors and nurses. The medicos get no thanks, either. Sends my sweet, gentle daughter-in-law postal.
Well the answer for me is that it wasn`t this mans time to die. God has it all calculated when we will leave this earth; I heard in my 62 years of living all kinds of things happening. It comes at no great surprise, because like the Bible states "All Things Are possible with God"
Still seems a lot more simple to me to simply have the person stay on the road then count on all the engineering and lucky bounces etc. At the very least this god does not seem very efficent. Maybe he just wanted to scare the crap out of the guy and trash his car?
Hah ( Ive always wanted to say this) " But god works in mysterious ways his wonders to perform" Almost like he hasn't got a fucking clue.....
@Logic
Maybe God gets a kickback from all of the insurance companies of the world? God causes wrecks and catastrophes, people file claims, insurance company raises the rates, God gets a small percentage of the rate raise. Pretty damn good racket, if you ask me.
Seems like a more likely theory then the current one apologist put out.
That's pretty screwed up, but believable.
When I I converse with my friend and someone gave such a vague answer that is based on nothing and leads nowhere, we call it "squishy".
In most of the posts in this thread, we are describing "miracles" with examples and critical examination. You are not doing that.
FIG: Blah blah blah some more wild assertions blah blah blah.
Same old same old, spare us your verbiage Billy, if you can demonstrate any objective evidence here then do so, we won't hold our breath though since you have shown you don't know what objective evidence is.
"All Things Are possible with God"
Can he stop suffering and expunge evil, because he's doing a bang up job so far if he's real?
@Sheldon
Well, the answer seems obvious. God must get off to suffering and evil...he did MAKE evil.
God and the Devil hiding behind a cloud and peeking down upon the vehicle traffic of the Earth. God reaches down and flicks his finger causing a random car to go flying off a high cliff. Somehow, the driver survives. God looks over at the Devil and says, "Pay up, asshole. He lived. Plus I get the credit for it."
After a few minutes, God reaches down and flicks another car off the road causing it to wrap around a utility pole. Driver is killed instantly. God looks over at the Devil and says, "Whoops!....Hmmm.... Looks like you will be taking the blame for that one."
Works for me, because they've done it before - Book of Job.
why the profanity Old Man Shouts, Are you envious? Are you angry for some reason with God? Do you blame God for your experiences in life that didn`t go in your favor? Your so angry that you can`t be satisfied for some ones good fortune in life? It doesn`t sit to well with you does it? you've had an animus toward God for some time now, why don`t you learn to forgive? give it up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@FIG Re: "give it up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Sorry, FIG. Exclamation point overkill this time. Three exclamation points too many. You were close, though. Eventually you will get it narrowed down.
@ FIG/AB
Are you envious? Of what?
Are you angry for some reason with God? Cannot be angry with something that does not necessarily exist
Do you blame God for your experiences in life that didn`t go in your favor? Nope, cant blame a mythical creature for anything
Your so angry that you can`t be satisfied for some ones good fortune in life? Huh? Thats a nonsense
It doesn`t sit to well with you does it? What on earth does this mean?
you've had an animus toward God for some time now, why don`t you learn to forgive? There is no need to forgive a mythical thing.
Keep on the meds billy, they're obviously good stuff.
Why the hypocrisy Billy? An atheist can't be angry at a deity, that's axiomatic, only the idiotic claim that the barbaric sadistic psychotic maniac in the bible or the koran is perfectly merciful. Stupidity of that magnitude I'll admit I find irksome. Though I think anger would be stretching it a bit.
God doesn't exist, so he gets a pass.
I don't think the majority of people here would blame anything in their lives on an imaginary friend.
I reckon most of us draw the line at the dog ate my homework.
We live in the most prosperous and most peaceful period in history...and also the most secular.
Nonsense. Hurricane Katrina killed off the entire Gay section of New Orleans and that was an act of God.
"While many of NO”s gay bars or enclaves were not devastated by Katrina—dis-proving the conservative religious vitriol that the hurricane was finally God’s divine retribution for the city’. ?
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/irene-monroe/hurricane-katrinas-strugg_b_...
Please Cognostic don`t blame God for what took place; THe people living this particular lifestyle got there reward that was due them for there sin justice of GOD Almighty saw to that. When you play with fire you will eventually get burned.
@ FIG/AB
"When you play with fire you will eventually get burned."
He/She has terrible aim then. Also it was a flood...so water, mate,...water,
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