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And chimp, he did come and tell us himself...see Jesus.
@sinner:
Jesus! Waiting patiently! Ho hum!
I don't speak for Him, just trying to be a humble servant; I pray He gives me the words to answer you. That's why it's so easy to defend, and so very simple. Not a complicated theological concept to grasp/ just pray and love in everything you do, follow His Will...that's all!
@sinner: Earlier you sought to explain the moral reasoning of a universal genocidal god.. Now you seek to humble your self as a simple seeker
One thing you have not convinced me of is why I should consider you a valid witness for your god!
You know inside your own brain to consider me a valid witness. I'm an uneducated dimwit who can argue the most important question of all times with people much smarter than me. And I try to love people like you, even though my mind tells me to despise you. The desire to despise is MY weakness, not yours. You tell me...
@sinner:
Why does your miseducation and your struggle not to despise me validate you as a credible witness?
No you can't Sinner. You just think that you can, but it's obvious that you have had your ass handed to you by chimp3 and fairly easily. Chimp3 showed how you contradicted yourself which proves that you CAN'T DEBATE with people smarter than you, and it seems the number that are smarter than you must be astronomical!
@sinner
Sounds like a hippie having a flashback!
Because I'm sure your smarter than I, but you resort to calling me an MF'er instead of presenting valid counter-arguments. Because I've got a lot of things I'd rather be doing, other than setting here trying to help you with your struggle...but I'm still here. These are his philosophies, not mine. This is way it cannot be disputed! If you don't think I'm a valid witness, I'm sorry and I'll try to improve- I'll leave u alone if you say the word.
@sinner:
OK! Leave it alone!
Well Sinner
1) I didn't call you a mother fucker. Go back through the thread a see.
2) I don't have any struggles and if I did I sure wouldn't have you help me.
3) "These are his philosophies," Whose philosophies? Hmm...? Can you prove this person thing? Can you even prove that these philosophies are his whoever the fuck it is?
4) A valid witness to what? If it is a witness to a god, then NO, FUCK NO! you have to prove a god. I am not taking the testimony of a self-proclaimed dimwit!
@beleevur:
Do you mean that can explain that god exists? Or just in the Bible? Cannot you explain it in Quran, or the existence of Vishnu? It's out of curiosity ¬¬)-♫
Mykcob4
Was my ass handed to me in the "you're a sick mother" comeback, or the well stated "leave me alone"? I'm too dumb to figure it out.
Already went over the proof earlier: God is love, paradoxes provide proof--- look back through the posts. Your existence is proof!
The fact that you all are on here debating the idea of an entity you supposedly are sure doesn't exist is proof- or do you spend hours on the "fairies don't exist", or "the Easter bunny isn't real" forums?!?!
The moment groups of people who do believe in fairies or the Easter Bunny start organizing and passing laws, or trying to get people who don't believe, or just believe differently than they do, treated as lesser citizens, then yes, we will be there.
@Sinner: "do you spend hours on the "fairies don't exist", or "the Easter bunny isn't real" forums?!?!"
Believers in fairies and the Easter Bunny don't use their influence on monarchs and presidents to seize control of entire countries and trigger bloody wars. I've never seen an Easter Bunny televangelist conning millions of dollars out of the guillible to buy mansions, executive jets, and luxury cars. I don't think there's been an Easter Bunny Inquisition resulting in the torture and execution of millions, or Easter Bunny conquistadors wiping out entire nations. Easter Bunny priests don't use their positions of power to abuse little children.
That's what moves most of us here to fight the cancer of religion. We recognize Christianity in particular as an ancient and modern force for evil that needs to be exposed to the light of truth and reason so that humanity can finally free itself of your primitive and perverted death cult.
Sinner wants to play that old worn out character " I am just a humble chsitian ( and then act smug as if he knows something that no one else does)." The fact is that he only thinks he knows something. I get sick of this bullshit really. Have you ever been around a bunch of christians and they all give little fucking signals to each other like they are characters in the movie 'The Sting'. They go around saying things like "I walk with the lord and my life is so much better"....and...."Now I know...." It's like being at an AMWAY seminar with bullshit testimony lies about becoming rich overnight with no effort...blah, blah, blah!
These idiots don't know shit. They think that they know something and it's obvious they don't. They claim that they are "witnesses" and they know that they are lying. Hell, we know that they are lying. Hell, they know that we know that they are lying!
They don't understand that we have seen it all before, that we actually KNOW THE FUCKING BIBLE, probably better than they! Yeah, and now "god is too big to see (fathom)." How fucking stupid is that?
I like how beleever tried to be subtle to elude that DNA science and Global Warming were fallacies,...subtle like a Cat 5 hurricane. This thread wasn't about how "god" is justified for all the atrocities he administered. It's really about knocking down DNA, Global Warming, and science in general. In other words its BULLSHIT!
I agree, all the DNA stuff and weather references provide weak proof. No smugness, I admit I have fault. No richness, or promise of "happiness". I expect hard times, whether I walk with Him or not. I don't worship, or find proof I need in the Bible...I don't worship the Bible, I worship Christ, through His Church, and hopeful intercession of The Blessed Mother. I'm sorry if I came across that way.
Sinner, I didn't say that science was weak stuff. You can't get a goddamned thing straight.
I meant weak proof for His existence in some ways, not against...I was agreeing with you. Who knows, maybe this is finally the period in history when currently accepted scientific theory isn't proven to be profoundly flawed in the future.
What is wrong with you? Why would you come and post this on a forum that has the sole purpose of discussing atheism?
I'm in the debate section- do u only debate with like-minded atheist's? Plus, you all some of the biggest struggles with these questions- why are you on here arguing with me?
@sinner: I enjoy arguing with believers. It is my favorite sport!
So next Sunday, perhaps a group of 20 or so atheists should get together and go to the local Methodist church, and in the middle of the ceremony we should stand up and demand to debate atheism versus Christianity. Because that's essentially what you're doing here.
Great! You're back?!?
Still here!
Do you believe in love and hate?
That they exist?
Love, hate, and other human emotions exist. We are wired that way.
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