After spending days and nights on research about existance of God. I came to know that there is no God or if he/she exists then he/she kept us on this planet for some other purpose not those purposes which are described be religions.
I left religion and i don,t beleive on any religion of the world now.
I shall observe around carefully now. I left all those prayers(duas) which i daily prayed to God from my childhood, i never got sleep in nights without those prayers in past but now some days ago i tried to sleep without those prayers and i slept peacefully while before this whenever i forget prayer i awaked up automatically in nights and i came to know i did not prayed to God that,s why God awaked me in night to pray to him/her. Some days ago i slept with surety that there is no God and thought thoday i shall not awake, beleive me i did not awaked up in night and i testing it from last many days and i did not got awaked, i think this all was just due to my confiding that i can,t sleep withou prayer but when i confidid that i can sleep without prayer then i did not awaked in nights.
I am testing other prayers and other miracles also and with passing time i coming to know that there is no God or if he/she exists then his/her purpose to making us is not that which is explained by religions.
I shall open my doors to if any clear and proper evidence of existance of God is found in future. Now i am feeling myself more nice and peacefull than past.
Now i am just human and humanity is my identification, I don,t beleive on any religion now.
As you know i am from Pakistan, give me some advices for security and secrecy. and if in future someone in my society comes to know who am i then what should i do or those ways through which i can escape from here to some save place in future.
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Welcome back Robot, I am glad to hear that you are getting more and better sleep these days. I know very little about living in Pakistan, but I have gotten the impression that it is NOT the kind of place you want to be an open atheist in. I have heard that it is one of those countries that apostasy is a capitol offense, so if your atheism is discovered, your best bet is to get away before you are killed. As to where, I do not know, but I hear India is a bit more hospitable to non-Muslims.
Travis Hedglin...
Pakistan and india are biggest enemies of each others. They are many restrictions on airports for going to india because they stops the ways of spies of each other by these restrictions. And one thing more india is also completely save for atheists. And there those who come from Pakistan are always considered as Pakistani spy and don,t have any respect in society.
Sorry i typed wrongly i was saying india is also not completely save there is no respect for those who come from Pakistan. I don,t wana go there because india is also not save for atheism.
Leaving Islam brings a harsh reward to those who denounce it. It took some inner strength and courage to openly declare it.
As far as advice, I'm not of your culture and therefore unaware of the kind of social pressure that your declaration would bring upon you. All I can suggest is to seek quiet company for your decision here, and other similar sites, and otherwise hold it close to you - a secret - that others who would not be privy to.
In my society nobody know that i am atheist. Only here you guys know about my atheism. I decided to go to some european country or u.s or canada or australia not any asian country. But i don,t know process how to go there if you know some one atheist who know these processes then please tell me about him/her in private message so that i can save myself more.
Living in Sweden (a mostly atheistic country) I can't even imagine what it must be like having to hide that you don't believe in gods, devils or what-have-you. But if being an atheist is placing you in danger you should, like Travis Hedglin already said, try to get out of there as soon as possible and until you can do that, to protect yourself, lie if you have to! I know that sounds terrible but you have nothing to gain from being punished or killed and hopefully you can do some good enlightening your friends from a safe place, where you can be open about not believing in fairy tales.
Best of luck to you!
Pakistan is a terrible place for atheists. Here society kills atheists if they find some atheist.
As SvanUlf told sweden is mostly atheistic country i should go there but i don,t know process how to go to sweden.
SvanUlf do you know how to goto sweden i am educated person holding bachelor degree and shall get master degree also in a few months.
SvanUlf send me private message if you know process how to go to sweden or recommend me some atheist who know how to go to sweden.
On internet this is single forum of atheism which i know therefore atheists of this forum only know me i did not joined any other forum or community of atheists.
Congratulations on reaching a point where you feel you can let go of praying.
But, as you live in Pakistan, I'm not so sure "congratulations" are appropriate. I'm sure there are better and worse parts of the country to live in. But from my general impression of Pakistan, I would not want to live there as an atheist. Unless one welcomes the challenge of promoting atheism such dangerous environment, I would want to move out of the country. But that would of course depend on the current social situation as well.
If you stick around, the best alternative might be to just accept that everyone else are caught up in their indoctrinated beliefs, pretend to believe yourself, and just try to be a voice of reason among believers.
I'm glad to live in a country where my kids are not subjected to indoctrination. Just this morning we were loading up the car to go have a little fun with the kids out in nature and barbecue hamburgers over an open fire. At that time I heard the church bells ringing, signalling Sunday mass. Even though my wife believes, she is much closer to a deist than a theist, and she doesn't care for worshipping. When I heard the church bells, I felt such appreciation that I did not have to waste time listing to that bullshit, and that I have a family that doesn't have to get subjected to it.
I hope you find a solution for your situation.
I'm sorry to say that I'm no expert in how or what one should do to migrate to Sweden but for your sake, and any other atheist looking to escape a narrow-minded country, I looked up the following web page that should have all the answers you need: http://www.migrationsverket.se/English/Private-individuals.html
I hope that helps.
The Pragmatic...
Living here in pakistan as atheist is totally dangerous i am living here as theist and i am fully in peace and feels myself full secure as theist. But problem is if some day my atheism discovered then peoples shall kill me. I am afraid of that day only that,s why i want to leave Pakistan.
robot....
Try this link to Atheist Republic home page.....halfway down .... centre column...
http://www.atheistrepublic.com/blog/alliejackson/need-asylum-keep-calm-read
Hi robot,
Its good to know that you have finally sorted your position about faith.
I will advise you not to tell anyone about it around you about this as long as you are not in an independent secure position.
or outside Pakistan. Even when you are out of the country its totally up to you how you plan to keep relations with your family and whether or not you want to tell them.
Hi Aber
I also tried to send you pvt msg but there is some error that,s why message is not going to you. Are you login with republic user name or with facebook or twitter etc.
on this forum my id is "myrobot" without quotes. Send me pvt message.
find me on fb with name Mirza Uddin.
i am loggen in here with republic user name
what is your republic id is this "Aber" only. or some thing other one. When you send me message remove [user] from end and also remove any space at end only send message to "myrobot" without quotes.
my id is maberl
Yes it is working now.