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And the prize for the most open switch and bait to avoid a question goes to; *drum roll, wild applause* JOHN6IXBreezy!!! *sounds of crickets* Crowd mutters "seen it before" " just like his last thread" "when will we get an ending?" "I have so many questions , but they just don't get answered" "I want a refund" "Has he got the same teacher as Cardinal Pell?" "Mummy, why is people?" *crowd files out sullenly to the night time darkness, unfulfilled and disappointed.* Fading comment: "I didn't even get to see his Nobels"
Perhaps I'm being cut some slack because of your appallingly dishonest evasion? It's pathetic to think you can ignore questions you don't like, even insult me for asking them, and now cry to admin that I'm spamming by showing how you are dishonestly ignoring them.
Not surprising though, given we all remember you creating multiple threads entitled slavery claiming that the bible denounced slavery, but refusing to acknowledge any posts that cited biblical texts that actually commentated directly on slavery. So do get off that high horse John, I may not be very well educated and possess a middling intellect, but I am not the one denying scientific facts, then pretending they have valid scientific objections to support that position which are mysteriously unknown to the entire scientific world, and that you are not motivated by your religious beliefs, and best of all that it is a coincidence I suppose you are presenting them on an atheist forum.
You don't respond to questions you have no answers for and don't want to address, which is your right, but please don't lie about it.
The amount of questions I get asked on any given topic, far exceeds that of anybody else. I'll have three people wanting to discuss the same topics with me simultaneously; each of which is asking ten questions at a time, and complaining if I miss any of them. I don't have a method for determining which questions I answer. Some questions I find boring and ill-informed, others I find fascinating but beyond my scope of knowledge. Some questions I've already answered before and have no motivation to answer again.
But the question I have for those of you complaining that I don't answer questions, is why isn't anybody asking questions of you? I don't see the forum rushing to tap into Cyber's or Sheldon's or Quasi's or Old Man's vast wealth of knowledge. Frankly, and theres no way to say it politely, its because none of you have thoughts worth listening to; none of you have ideas worth taking apart; and none of you have minds worth exploring.
I suppose you can't ignore questions when nobody is asking you anything. So reach my level of engagement, then I'll take your complaints seriously.
"I don't see the forum rushing to tap into Cyber's or Sheldon's or Quasi's or Old Man's vast wealth of knowledge. Frankly, and theres no way to say it politely, its because none of you have thoughts worth listening to; none of you have ideas worth taking apart; and none of you have minds worth exploring."
I think you need to look up the Dunning Kruger effect.
In the meantime none of us are denying scientific facts, so you hurling insults about our intellects is hilarious. Now when you get your Nobel prize in Biology I'll acknowledge that you're the genius you obviously think you are, until then you're just another theist, making grandiose denials of scientific facts he can't properly evidence, who then tries to evade salient questions and insults people when they call him on it.
I notice no answers were forthcoming from you yet again in that disjointed rant, quelle surprise.
John, you wrote, “I don't see the forum rushing to tap into Cyber's or Sheldon's or Quasi's or Old Man's vast wealth of knowledge. Frankly, and theres no way to say it politely, its because none of you have thoughts worth listening to; none of you have ideas worth taking apart; and none of you have minds worth exploring.”
And yet, here you are...typing away. If our thoughts are not worth listening to, is it the echo of your own voice that keeps you coming back?
What lol. First of all, I enjoy this forum when I get to speak to worthwhile members. The people I listed are very specific, so take it personally, and don't bring anyone else down with you.
Hahaha....but to whom, John, have you been responding?
@johnny "the brilliant mind" wheezy
no one can top what you say cause it's all bullshit, we all know why you're still a theist. you've already answered me last time
you just don't want to be shunned by your family, friends, co-workers, and the community around you. maybe that's the only honest answer you've said here in AR.
and i respect that...but continuously cherry-picking an opponent and a debater is quite opposite. perhaps you just lack attention that's why you're still here. you can't stand and confront a face to face debate that's why you're here and cherry-picking us.
i'm not a genius like you or others here. but you know what is the difference between us? you're scared of admitting that you're wrong.
My thoughts on truth and reality are very different from yours. Being wrong is nonsense in my view, because knowing what is actually true is very rare and very limited.
In my view, we all speak from a perpetual and endless position of ignorance. That's why I stress conversation over debate.
I also view the term "I don't know" as an excuse rather than an act of humility. I'm not fond of excuses.
but is it true that you're cherry-picking?
johnny "the professor" bweezy?
(*tilting head slightly*)
Sometimes the only honest answer is "I don't know."
Breezy,
"... why isn't anybody asking questions of you? I don't see the forum rushing to tap into Cyber's or Sheldon's or Quasi's or Old Man's vast wealth of knowledge."
The answer is simple, these other participants come forward with honesty and a clear position about whatever issue is being talked about. You do not have to ask, just give your opinion on what they say. You, maybe unwittingly, give the impression of a shifty someone skulking around with a hidden agenda and not being honest with his real position. People want to know exactly where you are coming from so they have to ask. You bring that situation on yourself.
What about coming forward with whatever it is your basic position on theism and make your life here easier?
The only creationists still pushing this generic no evidence for evolution argument IMO are atheist trolls having some fun.
Prolly the board owner started this thread for the lulz.
That sounds like The No True Scotsman fallacy to me.
And this...
http://www.icr.org/who-we-are
doesn't strike me as atheists trolling.
Re: John
Umm... Hey... Guys? Uh, for what it's worth, I plum a-reckon that there horse ain't gonna get no deader. Just an observation.
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Problem with John is he would argue it was a horse in the first place.
Captain: *smack-thwack-whack-smack-smack-smack*.... *breathing heavily*.... *whack-smack*... *mumbles to self*... "Rotten flea-bitten no good beast."... *thwack-thwack-smack*.... *yelling*..."Corporal!!!" .... *heavy breathing*...
Corporal: *running up and stops in front of Captain and salutes*..."Sir, you called, sir?"
Captain: *returning salute*..."Corporal, make this animal move from this location."...*pointing to unresponsive horse laying at his feet*
Corporal: *confused look*..."Uh, with all due respect, sir, that horse is dead."
Captain: *angry tone*..."Don't give me any of your lame excuses, corporal! Here! Take this stick!"...*shoves large stick into corporal's hand*..."I order you to continue beating this horse until it moves! Is that understood, corporal?"
Corporal: *accepts stick and smartly salutes*..."Yes, sir, Captain!"
Captain: *returns salute and walks away*
Corporal: *looks down at dead horse and ponders a moment*......*shrugs shoulders*....*whack-thwack-smack-smack-thwack-smack-whack......*
No, I would argued that a dead horse and a live horse are indistinguishable at the cellular level.
@John Re: "...dead horse and a live horse are indistinguishable at the cellular level."
Wouldn't that depend on how long the dead horse has been dead? LOL
Certainly, thus the less time its been dead, the more kicking becomes necessary to ensure its not alive. They taught us a variant of this in EMT school. First check if the person is responsive to verbal stimuli. If they aren't, we need to intentionally cause them pain. This means flicking their eyelashes, pinching them, squeezing their muscles, rubbing your knuckles against their sternum, etc.
Dead people don't respond to pain.
@John Re: "...If they aren't, we need to intentionally cause them pain."
Yeah, learned that in medic school myself. On a related item, before I ever became a medic, I would often respond to medical calls with the fire department for various reasons. Or, in some cases, we may have to call the medics to attend to a "non-responsive" suspect who was trying to play possum because he/she didn't want to go to jail. Always cracked me up when the medics would do a sternum rub or similar stimulation procedure, and the "patient" would be squinching his/her eyes tightly shut and gritting their teeth in an attempt to keep from reacting. It got even funnier when the medics used the ammonia capsules. Ahhhh.... good times... good times. LOL
I recognize the folly of asking John any questions.
As always it's as much for the benefit of others who may be reading as for me to re-examine questions and claims to re-evaluate the validity of them, and creationists try and bamboozle people with the pretence of scientific validity, a couple of questions pointed precisely where they don't want them and the reaction is invariably an angry attack.
Either a person accepts that science can validate explanations of natural phenomena or they don't, there''s no halfway house for creationists or religious apologists like John who want to lend their claims scientific gravitas when in fact they are at odds with the entire scientific world. The fact he ignores questions, and evades discussions he knows will expose this actually are as useful as if he gave a candid answer to them. His denial that his religious beliefs are a motive for his claims are slightly undone by the fact he's brought his claims to an atheist forum, and not to a worthy peer reviewed scientific journals, and think at some level he know this as well or he'd have answered my questions rather than resorting to angry ad hominem.
That's religious apologetics for you, such blatant attempts to cherry pick scientific facts would be laughed at from anyone else, and it's time we do the same to religious claims. It is important to challenge such claims though.
But you're not a scientist lol; you don't know how science works, you don't know how journals work, and you don't know how the Nobel Prize works. Last year alone I had to write an entire paper for a class, arguing against any scientific idea of my choosing. You know why? Because that's what scientists do. Guess what topic I chose (see attachment) and guess what grade I got?
I would argue there's a negative correlation between those who speak and think like you, and those who are scientists.
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@ Breezy the orchestral self praiser
*deafened by the sound of 10.000 self blown trumpets and a trombone*
Umm John, studying the History and Systems of Psychology does not make you, in any way, a psychologist.
And what I got from the attachment is a suggestion by Daniel for you to hike up your socks and get an A if you want a recommendation.
Why would you think it does in the first place hmm?
Because you are a dilettante, taking this course just for credits.
Breezy,
You are not a scientist either, at least with respect to Biology. Your way to ignore evidence, clearly shown through this discussion, is not what scientists do. If your paper was anything like what you do here, it was a lot of verbiage and objections with no alternative theoretical explanation and no factual experimentation done or referenced, something probably much easier to do in psychology than biology.
You and I have very different outlooks over what occurred in this conversation. Here's a recap: My position that micro vs macro are not false dichotomies, stood firm. My position that taxonomy is very subjective, also stood firm. My objections to macroevolution, which included three known mechanism which limit and prevent mutations stood firm.
All I saw from you was what? A complaint that you don't speak English, a complaint about our abilities to test certain things, and an illogical argument against my supposed beliefs.
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