Ethics: Religion vs. Secular

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Ethics: Religion vs. Secular

In our world, we constantly encounter people who hold various statements to be true. Regardless of religion or lack thereof, most people hold the statement "Murder is (bad wrong, evil, unjust)" to be true. Are these statements more akin to statements like "apples are fruit" or more like "I like apples"?

Religious people have it simpler (not necessarily better). Murder is bad because God (or other entity) designates murder as evil. However, is it not still God saying " I don't like murder" or is he referring to a code of ethics outside of himself. Either option is not satisfying to most orthodox religious people.

As an atheist, I have no one to designate my values for me, other than my society (which where I live claims to get its values from Jesus). I may prefer not to be murdered or prefer others not to be murdered, but I can't apply this to some metaphysical system of cosmic justice. There are various secular ethical systems (Mill, Kant, Sam Harris), but again they simply offer mostly emotional or societac appeals to express their preferences.

Atheists are divided much more than religious people on ethical opinions. So is morality objective, subjective, or meaningless, and should atheists come to a consensus like religious people?

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Nyarlathotep's picture
Well it is clearly subjective
CyberLN's picture
"...and should atheists come
Travis Hedglin's picture
This is what I consider to be
watchman's picture
"So is morality objective,
Jeff Vella Leone's picture
Yes I agree that morality is
SoSaysApollo's picture
I would have to agree that
Nyarlathotep's picture
Well some religious people
CyberLN's picture
No.
Travis Hedglin's picture
"I would have to agree that
cmallen's picture
This is really moot because
Pitar's picture
Ethics/morality is and always
SoSaysApollo's picture
I agree that morality is
UberCryxic's picture
I reject the subtle premise
mysticrose's picture
The things that we do should

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