Afaitheists - ā fā thee Əm
Term to describe the amusing unwavering blind FAITH that Atheists have, in a completely unexplained, miraculous, random act, while they demonize faith as a fairy tale.
You might say something like
"We dont know the origins of everything nor do we claim 2. We can only go on what evidence we have."
But all of the atheists are just absolutely positive that life began out of nothing, just started. And despite the complete lack of any explanation for this, they will absolutely lambaste you if you don’t except this as fact. My statement isn’t about God it’s about atheists only.
More specifically it’s about what I have dubbed #Afaitheists and their amusing hypocrisy as they Condescendingly mock people for having faith in something, yet they have unwavering blind faith in what is essentially nothing but don’t dare question it or Else.
I’m not here to tell you how life began, I’m just here to tell you that since you and the rest of the atheists absolutely positively do not know how it began you can’t possibly know that the people of faith are wrong.
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Who said life began from nothing?
You do. Atheists do.
Citations?
Come on many atheists believe this. They also like to mock and be condescending to people who have faith.
Again, citations? No atheist I know ever said " Let there be light and there was light!"
Towerpiller:
You've gone from "all of the atheists are just absolutely positive that life began out of nothing" to "many atheists believe this."
The next step will "my friend's uncle heard someone who might have been an atheist say in this in a bar in 1980."
@Towerpiller: "But all of the atheists are just absolutely positive that life began out of nothing"
Who elected you to speak for "all atheists"?
A Earth-size planet covered in primordial oceans constantly energized by UV and lightning strikes and fed by complex chemical flows from hydrothermal vents and comet strikes isn't "nothing."
To date nobody has conclusively shown how life began. It's a complex question, and it will take time. Science is a lot harder than fantasy writing.
Maybe life was the result of chemical reactions occurring at countless locations in that oceanic soup over millions of years. Or maybe some eternal sky fairy wrinkled his nose like Samantha and magicked life out of the dirt. Take your pick.
"A Earth-size planet covered in primordial oceans constantly energized by UV and lightning strikes and fed by complex chemical flows from hydrothermal vents and comet strikes isn't "nothing.""
I thought you said "To date nobody has conclusively shown how life began."
Contradiction.
towerpiller: "Contradiction."
Nope. You said (illogically) that "all of the atheists are just absolutely positive that life began out of nothing". I merely pointed out an error in your terminology. The prevailing scientific and atheist view is that life somehow arose spontaneously on the primeval Earth. That's not the same as "from nothing."
"A Earth-size planet covered in primordial oceans constantly energized by UV and lightning strikes and fed by complex chemical flows from hydrothermal vents and comet strikes isn't "nothing.""
Pardon me but you’re wasting your time ranting against a claim I never made.
I made no attempt to give any explanation, or provide any theory as to where or how life began.
As usual the atheists are too busy attacking to recognize their own hypocrisy.
You can concoct an argument wrapped in all sorts of fancy language & unprovable theories still only 2 choices I am arguing neither.
I’m simply saying you don’t know.
"Maybe life was the result of chemical reactions occurring at countless locations in that oceanic soup over millions of years. Or maybe some eternal sky fairy wrinkled his nose like Samantha and magicked life out of the dirt. Take your pick."
Exactly. There are 2 choices,
1) Either life was created
Or
2) it spontaneously sprang from nothing.
If they, being atheists are adamant that life was not “created“ there is only one other possibility And that is that life just started all by itself.
"Maybe life was the result of chemical reactions occurring at countless locations in that oceanic soup over millions of years."
Exactly, And that is #Afaitheism in a nutshell thank you for doing such a wonderful job helping me illustrate it.
Which means life spontaneously sprang from nothing. That one day there was no life & the next day there was & that just happened. Just some random out of no where random miraculous occurrence, and bam all life sprang forth.
Atheists believe this. if you believe something that is faith. Hence my argument above where I said "But all of the atheists are just absolutely positive that life began out of nothing, just started.".
Atheists have faith. Therefore stop mocking people who have faith if you have it yourself.
Just admit it you guys have faith you are being hypocrites when you mock other for having faith.
Done.
@ towerpiller
Who says? You?
Your problem is that first, you define what everybody thinks and then state that they believe and say what you defined. You don't offer ANY proof whatsoever that that is the fact.
You don't get to define what atheists believe or don't believe, with one exception. Atheists don't believe in YOUR myth.
I don't have any faith. I have an understanding of the FACTS. That isn't a faith.
I'll mock anyone I desire to mock so as far as that is concerned you can go fuck yourself!
And you are done alright. You aren't "half-baked" you are a completely cooked idiot. You may think that you have the authority to define what other people think and or believe, but you don't and you're wrong in the first place.
@Towerpiller: "Pardon me but you’re wasting your time ranting against a claim I never made"
LOL. You're right. You are a waste of time.
Your statements are so incoherent that you don't even understand them yourself.
tell me my name, gender, job, age & place of birth
it should be no problem to a mind reader like you
news flash: faith is called that because its not knowledge
I have zero faith & zero belief.
my words for me by me.
I couldn't care less what believe about you or me but you don't get to make shit up
how weak must you be, pride filled & hateful to troll the www for atheist forums to spit bile
im sorry for whatever has caused you hurt but it wasn't me so direct your frustrations elsewhere
I don't know many... Actually I personally don't know any atheists who claim to positively know anything like that. I also have never heard a single person claim that life began out of nothing. Those words only seem to appear in straw man arguments against atheists. But I'm with chimp... Show me an example of an atheist saying this.
And when(if) you do, know this; what one person says does not speak for what anyone else says.
Furthermore, if an atheist told me such a thing as: "life came out of nothing "as an epistemic claim my response would be the same as to theists:"how do you know that? Where's your evidence? "
"I personally don't know any atheists who claim to positively know anything like that."
Of course they won’t say “life came from nothing”, but in the end that will still be the claim.
That one day there was no life & the next day there was & that just happened. Just some random out of no where random miraculous occurrence, and bam all life sprang forth.
Here look to simplify my main post above:
There are really only 2 choices, I am arguing neither.
1) Either life was created
Or
2) it spontaneously sprang from nothing.
I don’t know, you don’t know.
If they, being atheists are adamant that life was not “created“ there is only one other possibility And that is that life just started all by itself.
Therefore, atheists, have faith that life came from nothing as per my #Afaitheist definition I mentioned in my main post above.
My point is the demonization of people of faith by #Afaitheist Is hypocritical and frankly offensive.
That's a false dichotomy. There are other options... Such as it took millions and billions of years of small changes accumulating to add up to big changes. That would be a third option. The only people who say that one day there was no life and the next day there was are theists. That's what their book says anyway. But still, almost no-one says that.
Anyway it takes no faith to not believe. I guess if you look at it like... No. Still no. Not believing A does not mean you believe in not A. It doesn't even mean that you believe in B or X or anything. It just means you don't accept A.
No one I know thinks something can be had from nothing, political claims notwithstanding. That said, even the most bible-reared and god-fearing theist cannot disprove something from nothing in a universal context. Unfathomable? Exactly. That's why all men ponder the sentient world and trade punches theorizing it's existence. Silly men.
I'm afraid I have to concur, I've never heard any atheist say this... not once!
"I've never heard any atheist say this... not once!"
Of course they won’t say “life came from nothing”, but in the end that will still be the claim.
That one day there was no life & the next day there was & that just happened.
Just some random out of no where random miraculous occurrence, and bam all life sprang forth.
Here look to simplify my main post above:
There are really only 2 choices, I am arguing neither.
1) Either life was created
Or
2) it spontaneously sprang from nothing.
I don’t know, you don’t know.
If they, being atheists are adamant that life was not “created“ there is only one other possibility And that is that life just started all by itself.
Therefore, atheists, have faith that life came from nothing as per my #Afaitheist definition I mentioned in my main post above.
My point is the demonization of people of faith by #Afaitheist Is hypocritical and frankly offensive.
Towerpiller, you wrote, “If they, being atheists are adamant that life was not “created“ there is only one other possibility And that is that life just started all by itself.”
You are incorrect. That is not the only other possibility.
No, it’s not what you imply. I’m not forcing the position on atheists but rather I’m merely observing that they’ve taken.
What are the other possibilities then?
1. I’m not implying anything. I’ve said exactly what I mean to say so please refrain from assuming otherwise.
2. A position “they’ve” taken. You should actually read the responses from folks here who are identified as atheist.
3. Example of another possibility - life always has been. It’s not all ones and zeroes.
"There are really only 2 choices, I am arguing neither.
1) Either life was created
Or
2) it spontaneously sprang from nothing."
That's a false dichotomy, just how exactly would you evidence your claim we're limited to two choices? That's assuming you can even be bothered to stop simply asserting it as if it is a fact of course.
"What are the other possibilities then?"
That;s a common logical fallacy, argumentum ad ignorantiam or an argument from or appeal to ignorance. Atheism is the lack of one single belief, that a deity or deities exist, nothing more. So your assumption it requires other assertions about how life or the universe originated is fallacious. I no more wonder how life or the universe came to exist without a deity, than I wonder how it happened without pixies, I don't trouble myself over claims that can demonstrate no proper evidence to support them.
you claim nothing, just you.
your post is pure pride, hatred & venom.
its utterly irrelevant what, where, how, why life began or are you saying not knowing something must be replaced with saying "god did it" & that still doesn't prove god or whatever of the 4200+ gods yours is
go back to your cult, talk to the wind & keep your hatred to yourself
towerpiller
I don't claim that life came from nothing. Theist have no problem with their god creating life from nothing. Who appointed you as the speaker for all Atheist? All Atheist believe there are zero gods or a lack of evidence any gods exist. Just because we don't know how life started, doesn't mean a god did it. Do you have evidence your god created anything?
"I don't claim that life came from nothing." and "Just because we don't know how life started"
You may not claim it or know it's true but you do believe it. You have taken the position by rejecting that life was created.
Even if you and in general atheists admit not knowing, if they are adamant that life was not “created“ there is only one other possibility And that is that life just started all by itself
"Theist have no problem with their god creating life from nothing." and "Just because we don't know how life started, doesn't mean a god did it. Do you have evidence your god created anything?"
Life was created. It is either created or spontaneously just happened miraculously from nothing.
Either way, this is irrelevant. I made no attempt to give any explanation, or provide any theory as to where or how life began.
As usual the atheists are too busy attacking to recognize their own hypocrisy.
Read this slowly I am not debating with you and will not debate with you how life was created. I don’t know, you don’t know.
My point having faith yourself and then go and demonizing of people of faith by #Afaitheist Is hypocritical and frankly offensive.
offence is taken not given
you need to look up atheist it doesn't mean anything about the origin of life
all you seem to argue is "a god did it" because of some weird idea about nothing from nothing you invented
do you realise you are merely 1 person who only has the ability to speak for themselves?
where do you get the narcissistic idea are you are the voice of others?
if you don't know then how can you try to correct others anyway?
im not trolling the www looking for religious forums to spout hatred
you are trolling the www hunting out atheist pages though
one of us needs to wind in their ego & its not me
towerpiller
I agree with you that I don't know how life started, neither do you. You claim life was created. What evidence do you have that life was created? How did you get here? I know how I got here. I don't have faith, and Atheism is not a belief. Atheism is lack of belief in any gods. What evidence do you have that your god is real?
Good! But then you should stop presenting that false dichotomy; since as you said: you don't know.
No, it’s not what you imply a false dichotomy. I’m not forcing the position on atheists but rather I’m merely observing that they’ve taken it.
"since as you said: you don't know."
How does that relate to anything? This is irrelevant.
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