ARE WE PLAYING GOD??

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Cognostic's picture
ARE WE PLAYING GOD??

Only if you are a fucking bible believing idiot. God may not be able to grow back a limb but science is well on its fucking way. Science 1 God 0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NOncx2jU0Q

And THIS IS INSANE!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgTwa3CPrIE

FUCK THE WHOLE GOD IDEA.

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Whitefire13's picture
Beautiful!

Beautiful!

Had to put on my glasses to see this shit (God fucked up my perfect eye design)...

Anyway, I think god gave up after the Tower of Babel - we made a big building, came together
- oops, BIG MISTAKE ... god changes us in an instant to speak different languages! (apparently he can do that when he wants).
We learn to speak “more than one language”, in other words - fuck you!
We learn to boil water - fuck you!
We learn light refraction - fuck you!
We learn to put on and advance limbs - fuck you!
We’re learning our own forms of “mind control” - fuck you!

You know this scares the shit out of fundies....

boomer47's picture
@White

@White

"Had to put on my glasses to see this shit (God fucked up my perfect eye design)..."

Mine too. I was born with cataracts .Eventually I had trouble seeing. My GP referred me to a very nice lady eye doctor who fixed them. It cost me nothing.That was because I had been paying private health Insurance for 15 years .

My mum told me I had an imaginary friend when I was 3 (I'd forgotten) His name was Mr Bailey. Apparently Mr Bailey did anything untoward of which I was accused. Such as chucking my grandfather's tools into the rain water barrel. I didn't really need an invisible friend as a child; I had my parents, two aunts and my grandfather who loved me and made me feel safe.

By the time I had become an adult, I'd learned to think for myself..

David Killens's picture
We are not playing god, we

We are not playing god, we are going past the limits imposed by this imaginary fiend (not a typo) in the sky. Theists claim miracles, yet there is no evidence anyone has grown a limb.

Thank you for posting those videos Cognostic, they bring me joy. But I went a little further, and found this. I respectfully request that everyone watch it, and to the entire end. Please, I beg you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDsNZJTWw0w

Religion is designed to crush the human spirit, our desire to improve, and explore. Science is our liberator from our human frailties and the limits imposed by theists.

Tin-Man's picture
@David K. Re: Vid link

@David K. Re: Vid link

Dammit, you asshole... *wiping tears from eyes*... You trying to make me rust? Amazing vid. Thank you for sharing that.

Cognostic's picture
@David: Another great

@David: Another great example..... am I going to tear up through all of these damn videos?

Whitefire13's picture
I love these types of videos.

I love these types of videos... I’ve always incorporated
TED talks into our science or social or history ...

algebe's picture
@David Killens: Religion is

@David Killens: Religion is designed to crush the human spirit

And which character in religion represents the human drive to improve, our will to compete and succeed, our intelligence and curiosity about the world? Satan.

Religions have literally demonized every positive human quality that empowers us to resist their superstition-based power grab. Take away all the attributes of Satan and you are left with sheep.

David Killens's picture
@ Algebe

@ Algebe

Ever watch the TV series "Star Trek, the Next Generation"?

One word ... Borg.

You shall be assimilated.

algebe's picture
@David Killens: Ever watch

@David Killens: Ever watch the TV series "Star Trek, the Next Generation"?

Yes indeed. I remember the Borg, and I remember how Hugh suffered when he was cut off from his god (the hive mind). Those god implants can be very difficult to dig out.

boomer47's picture
@Cognostic.

@Cognostic.

Pickle me grandmother! Those clips are FUCKING FANTASTIC. Has made my day! Thanks mate.

I regret I probably won't live long enough to see twenty to fifty years down the track into the future of robotics,.

Of course I'm assuming we haven't managed to destroy our present society through climate change. I think having coastal cities in advanced countries under water might slow things down a bit

Cognostic's picture
@Cranky: There's always

@Cranky: There's always bionic lungs for submerged coastal cities and smog. I won't be there either but the advancements being made are stellar! From growing limbs to allowing the color blind to see color and even getting the blind to see. It's frigging amazing.

Do you realize that the Wright Brothers built the first plane in 1903 and then we landed on the moon in 1969. 66 years. That's fucking amazing. My Great Grandmother came across the plains in a covered wagon to homestead in Kansas and while she is now long gone, she lived long enough to see the first moon landing, color TV, airplanes, interstate highways, telephones, and who knows what other amazing technologies that I take for granted amazed her.

When I was young, we had black and white TV with antenna. Half the time you just got white fuzz. Now I carry a frigging TV with me and with virtual reality I can be a part of the program. There are certainly changes in all of our lives that we take for granted but the amazing things being done to help people live full and productive lives is just fucking amazing!!!

Whitefire13's picture
Cranky & Cog. ...” submerged

Cranky & Cog. ...” submerged coastal cities”

We’ll just plop a dome around these suckers - viola! Underwater living space!

boomer47's picture
@Cognostic.

@Cognostic.

"Do you realize that the Wright Brothers built the first plane in 1903 and then we landed on the moon in 1969"

Yair, I watched the moon landing on TV. Also a special Elvis concert, live by satellite

Mate I was born in 1947.

I was 6 when we got our first fridge, which replaced an icebox.

Our heating was from a large open fireplace in the lounge. There was no cooling of any kind, not even a fan. On hot Summer nights we wheeled the TV out onto the front verandah and watched it sitting on the lawn.

My parents each read three books a week, from the free mobile library.

In the winter the whole family would sit around the massive radio, with a roaring fire, and listen to radio serials on a Sunday night. "Ben Hur " went for months. I listened to the kids shows after school, from about 3.30 until around 5. I got my very own radio when I was 8,. This was a BIG deal, before transistor radios and during a time in which radio was still a source of entertainment for the whole family.

We got our first car in 1960. A 1938 Nash. That was the same year we got TV (b&w) my dog, and my baby sister.

My mother went home to Canada by air in 1954. In a DC3 I think (4 props) it took 3 days.

MY forebears arrived in the free colony of South Australia *** 1870, from County Clare where and got kids. My mother's family arrived in Canada about the same time, also from Clare, and got rich. (rags to riches to rags in three generations)

Even though I kind of understand the digital system, and love IT to bits, at base, computers and very thin, massive TV's still seem like magic to me. It's amazing to me that we are in the last human generation of the internal combustion engine as transport and fossil fuels as energy,. Amazed, and thrilled.

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** Founded in 1836, South Australia was the only free colony in Australia . All others were founded as convict settlements. Today people take that with a perverse pride. However, until my generation being the descendant of convicts was cause a for deep shame and embarrassment. Some South Austrians took a malicious glee in throwing that in face of people from other states .

THE LAST CONVICT SHIP arrived in Australia on 10 JANUARY 1868.

Cognostic's picture
@Crank: I didn't even think

@Crank: I didn't even think of the TVs. I remember collecting old TVs, Taking out the tubes and trying them in other old TVs to get the damn things to work. Occasionally getting lucky!

boomer47's picture
@cognostic

@cognostic

Until quite recently I had a couple of CRT monitors for my PC. I bought a 19 inch Soniq flat screen TV and used it for a monitor--Even with basic resolution, it was superior to CRT The Soniq was all that was available. ---and it cost me $500.

algebe's picture
@cranky47

@cranky47

CRT monitors were deeper than they were wide, and they weighed a ton. There wasn't much room on my desk after parking two 19-inchers on it. Now I've got five 24-inch LCDs arranged in a semicircle around the edge of my desk. The resolution is infinitely better, and they use hardly any power.

Our first TV bought in 1953 was a 12-inch black-and-white in a huge upright box. It took a couple of minutes for the screen to warm up. I watched Bill & Ben, Rag Tag and Bobtail, the Lone Ranger, and the first episode of Coronation Street on that piece of junk.

With the old CRT TVs, our dogs never blinked when other dogs appeared on screen. Now we've got a 90-inch LCD HDTV, and our current dog goes nuts when anything with four legs appears. I think it's something to do with the screen refresh rate.

David Killens's picture
The TV is on the fritz.

The TV is on the fritz. Remove the backing, pop out the tubes, run down to the pharmacy to the tube tester, test them, get a new tube, and in a few minutes the TV is back working.

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Nyarlathotep's picture
Is that for vacuum tubes?

Is that for vacuum tubes? Those are a little before my time. I have a vague notion of how they work, but don't have much hands on experience with them.

David Killens's picture
@ Nyarlathotep

@ Nyarlathotep

"Is that for vacuum tubes? Those are a little before my time. I have a vague notion of how they work, but don't have much hands on experience with them."

Yes, back then the vacuum tubes for TV's were to a set industry standard, and a TV would have 5 to 12 various tubes inside. It was easy to unscrew the rear panel, pull the tubes out, and do a test, in of all places, a pharmacy.

Cognostic's picture
@Nyarlathotep: Yep! Vacuum

@Nyarlathotep: Yep! Vacuum tubes? You missed out on an amazing childhood. Mucking about in the back of a TV that you found in a junk pile was a youthful preoccupation. First you got yourself a working TV tube, one that was not burnt out. Then you mucked about for hours testing the little vacuum tubes. Sometimes, actually getting a picture. Then you had a new TV. It was awesome. Taking electronics apart and putting them back together was once a national pastime. I guess you could compare it to building your own computer with store bought components. Not a very difficult thing to do today.

Cognostic's picture
@DAVID: I Remember those!!!

@DAVID: I Remember those!!! Or you could take your TV up the street to the TV Repair guy.

boomer47's picture
@Cognostic

@Cognostic

"@DAVID: I Remember those!!! Or you could take your TV up the street to the TV Repair guy."

Our first TV was a 23inch HMV, made locally. Fantastic sound from a 12inch speaker with a massive magnet. Unfortunately, the thing would blow a valve just about very other week. However, dad had the foresight to take out insurance for repairs. A nice man would come around and fix it.

By the time I moved into my first place, TV's were solid state and didn't break down much. Colour TV arrived in Australia in 1974, and used the superior PAL system. I rented one . To buy new it was $1000---- I earned $3000 a year, which was well above the national mean average of about $2000.

Thought for today: "Marx wrote over 100 years ago that religion is the opium of the people. From the mid 1950's it was TV and shopping. " (Tarquin S Shagnasty)

Whitefire13's picture
I feel so YOUNG after reading

I feel so YOUNG after reading your TV musings and memories :)
THANKS!!! My boys make me feel ancient because I grew up before “the net”...

David Killens's picture
Heck, back then the car tires

Heck, back then the car tires had inner tubes and flats were common. My father carried a tube patch kit and air pump.

I wish I was making it up.

boomer47's picture
@White

@White

"THANKS!!! My boys make me feel ancient because I grew up before “the net”..."

Entirely welcome. I think I might see you as very young. (at least 20 years younger than I)

I suspect your boys have mindsets similar to that of my crew around the same age. (your boys are well under 20?)

AT 17 ,we referred to our parents 'the olds'. My mum was 38. My dad 45.

Below a link to a The Who , live 1967 , doing a song which was an anthem to my generation. (ahem)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjN5uHRIcjM

Cognostic's picture
Back then a Hershy bar was a

Back then a Hershy bar was a nickle and a bottle of coke only a dime. I could buy bubble gum for a penny and candies on special were two for a penny. A gallon of gas was 32 cents. I could take the city bus from my house to Disneyland (On those days I ditched school) , about 5 miles, for a quarter. Minimum wage in 1972, when I got my first real job, was something like $1.60 an hour. I worked in a warehouse for $3.50 and thought I was in hog heaven...... well....... until I heard the guys around me talking about house payments, car payments and family expenses. That was when I decided to stop stacking Levi's 501 blue jeans on shelves, three front to back and three on top back to front, and go get an education. How in the fuck were these guys making it when I could barely support myself? I went back to school..

WHAT A LIFE!!!

boomer47's picture
"Back then a Hershy bar was a

@Cognostic

"Back then a Hershy bar was a nickle and a bottle of coke only a dime"

They still don't sell Hershey bars or Babe Ruth's here as far as I know. My favourites were Cherry Ripe, (about 10 cents) and my all time favourite, "Polly Waffles'

For me, coke was 5 cents (10 0z) and a packet of 20 Marborough 3 shillings (30 cents) A pair of Beatle boots was $3.00 and a pair of good AMCO jeans was $3.50 . One needed to lie on ones bed to wriggle into and out of them. Mercifully, stove pipes (12inches circumference legs) were replaced at first by flags and then bell bottoms (18 inch leg circumference )

OF COURSE, at 17, my take home pay was $17.50, of which mum took $5.00 for board.

Thought for today : "Nostalgia isn't what it used to be"(anon). ---- Shagnasty's corollary; "and it never was"

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Cherry Ripe is a brand of chocolate bar manufactured by Cadbury Australia. Introduced by the Australian confectioner MacRobertson's in 1924, it is now one of Australia's oldest chocolate bars and is one of the top chocolate bar brands sold in the country. [2] It consists of cherries and coconut coated with dark chocolate.

https://wikimili.com/en/Cherry_Ripe_(chocolate_bar)

Polly Waffle is a 50 gram Australian chocolate bar. It is a waffle wafer tube filled with marshmallow and coated in compound chocolate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polly_Waffle

David Killens's picture
A dime got a lot of mileage

A dime got a lot of mileage in the candy store. IMO it is the equivalent of a kid having ten bucks today.

Cognostic's picture
And now for something

And now for something completely different!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue7wM0QC5LE

Whitefire13's picture
I love Monty!

I love Monty!
Yes... to the “teens” I am old - early 50s ... I use it to my advantage (always) with them...

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