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I have to say, I am inclined to agree with a lot of what you said here after you cleaned your comment up. I do still disagree with a few concepts but I do understand your position more now and I don;t think we are as far apart as I first thought. And no wonder, you said you were not religious near the end. Maybe we just got off on the wrong foot. You are basically saying in conversation words need to be used in the context of who you are talking to. That is what I get from you. I still think it is unnecessary and meaningless if we were to bring it out of an interesting thought within a philosophical conversation and into reality and once that happens that then becomes a claim.
@Towerpiller
“but i personally believe either word should carry both aspects. also throw nature in there.”
So you want to use The Universe as a placeholder for god. Right. Why? Isn't the actual universe awe inspiring enough for you?
“it's not a semantics game,..”
Um...I beg to differ.
“...its a dumbing down so there's less confusion.”
How does imprecise language use create less confusion? Seriously, if you're having conversations about life, the universe and everything with people who need it dumbed down, I'd stop having those conversations.
"universe/multiverse=god=nature= everything..."
Woo woo! And the answer's 42.
“I shall apply attributes if I haven't already.”
You haven't, and attributes to what? The nonsentient universe? This should be fun.
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Seems to me like you are to lazy to even defend your point. Why not at the very least copy and paste your own post? We have no rules here against self plagiarism. Heck it would be even easier than writing out the few sentences you did. Ofcourse your reply to LA lakers does not address the points we are all making. But obviously you are not aware of that.
towerpiller, maybe if you offered your definition of "universe" we can begin to understand what you are implying.
WHAT IF: It really was a reason! What if nature is intelligent. What if trees are actually trying to take over the planet in a secret pact with the bunny rabbits. What if it were not for the protection of the mosquitoes sucking the evil demons out of us, we would all be extinct. What if the trees are actually winning. Oh my GOD! We are all doomed. I have to go to my room and cry. I think I just scared myself and wet my pants.
What if it's a giant Cherry Danish? Have you considered the possibility it's a fabulous giant pastry? Why are you so closed minded about universe sized pastries? What evidence have you that a Cherry Danish can't call the shots?
BLASPHEMY!!!! DIE HERETIC DIE! Everyone knows it is the Great Magical Lemon Tart calling the shots.
You're both going to fruitcake hell, because the universe is OBVIOUSLY a giant sweet roll.
Lemon Tart Believers unite! It's a HOLY WAR - Kill the non-believers, follow the holy Lemon Tart!
@Cog, Sheldon and Jared
But I like lemon tart, cherry danish AND sweet rolls- and I'll be fine! I don't have to pick one, because Towerpiller says I can just call all three Food, so there!
Everyone knows the universe was created by a Yellow Mutant Space Chicken (who is god) when she laid it as an egg, 5 minutes ago with false age. Chickens had to come from somewhere right?
Don't be fooled by the Yellow Mutant Space Chicken! He came from an egg just like all the other chickens./
So the universe is god, yet it continues to follow the laws of physics. Galaxies form like eddies in a stream. Suns are born, grow old and die. Rocks hurtle unguided through space and crash into each other to form or destroy planets. Chemicals randomly react over eons until life arises.
So what's the difference between a universe that is god and a universe that isn't god?
The OP's premise goes from the assumption that god must exist, then attempts to define it as something known to exist in order to demonstrate it must exist. That merely suggests that the OP doesn't have any actual evidence for god.
And what if our universe is contained within that pollen grain that just flew up the nose of the ginormous being that is getting to sneeze us back out?
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Oh my God! What if the universe wasn't god! There would be no....... um........ er........... You know .... those things........... um........... Well, I can't imagine a universe that is not god so it must be true. Obviously there would be NOTHING without god. Look at the trees!
What I see repeated is something along the lines of "God" being the metaphysical properties of the universe.
The first thing I'd like to ask then is, what metaphysical properties?
Metaphysical Property? Isn't that hell?
@ The original OP/towerpiller
I agree, and here is why
It is in unveiling that we are reborn. We must learn how to lead technological lives in the face of suffering. We must ground ourselves and fulfill others.
Hope is a constant. Today, science tells us that the essence of nature is ecstasy. The world is beaming with sonar energy.
Only a Indigo Child of the quantum soup may generate this revolution of purpose. Yes, it is possible to exterminate the things that can exterminate us, but not without love on our side. Where there is yearning, self-actualization cannot thrive.
The goal of electrical impulses is to plant the seeds of nature rather than selfishness.
Without growth, one cannot exist. Turbulence is the antithesis of understanding. We can no longer afford to live with materialism.
You must take a stand against greed. Pain is born in the gap where complexity has been excluded. You may be ruled by suffering without realizing it. Do not let it obliterate the nature of your path.
Courtesy http://sebpearce.com/bullshit/
@Old Man
"You may be ruled by suffering without realizing it. "
*nods wisely* Mmm. The Pain Body.
What?
@ Towerpillar
"What?"
exactly, grasshopper, exactly. *nods wisely and resumes enigmatic smile*
@Old Man
Splendid post, good sir. The amalgamation of intrinsic worthiness thrives within your outer core of non-materialistic self-deprivation. Tread your path in wayward hopes of gumdrop rainbows.
Alright, I think it's time somebody put a lock on the Valvoline cabinet.
@Jared Re: "Alright, I think it's time somebody put a lock on the Valvoline cabinet."
https://youtu.be/qAqV-SoVVns
I still think "Metaphysical Property" is a lot in hell.
@Cog Re: Metaphysical property
Of course it is. I saw it listed in a local real estate guide. Best part is that it's a waterfront lot with a magnificent scenic view of the Lake of Fire. And in the evenings you can sit on the back deck and relax to the soothing sounds of the wailing and gnashing of teeth from the tortured souls of the eternally damned. If I recall correctly, they were asking for $666 or best offer.
@ TM
@Cog Re: Metaphysical property
Nice property (btw it is $666,666 or 6 roubles in real money) But the realtor is unreal. Dropped ash all over my carpet, kept bursting into flame and screaming incoherently at random intervals, scorched the contract so its unreadable. Won't be dealing with him again.
@Old Man Re: $666,666
Hmmm... Odd. Then again, I DID think it was rather strange that the letters/words in the ad seemed to morph and change every time I looked away and then looked back. I just thought my glasses were smudged. Oh, and there was a faint sulphur smell, too. Wonder what THAT was all about?
The real drawback with the metaphysical property for me was the screaming neighbors. You would think, with all that screaming, the windows would be double pane to help block out the eternal noise. It's like having a home at the end of a runway at LAX. I just don't get it, all those people CHOSE to be in this neighborhood, so what in the hell do they have to scream about?
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