What Do You Hear Reading This?

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What Do You Hear Reading This?

We all believe in things we cannot see; time, space, energy, mass, love, courage, sub-atomic particles, virtue, justice,... (the list goes on)-->and these are all necessary realities we know to exist and yet we 'physically' see none of them.  So how do we know they are there?... There HAS to be a starting point and a creator of that starting point!
     ...Apart from God you cannot prove anything at all because God is our proof!  There are no contradictions in the literary understandings of our Holy Bible.
      Jesus said - it is an evil and adulterous people that look for a sign - and the atheists *demand* for a sign is a flawed request! ...And they (athiests) feel they have a legitimate request that God would make himself known. Shame!
      God shows you his existence within you when you look for it with yourself!
      How do you get good at anything in life unless you put your whole self into it? Human Nature The flesh draws towards our original sin and Adam and Eve, which is rebellion, and the more we allow our sin/rebellion to take hold on us... the further stuck we become in the ways of the of the world rather than in the truth Christ came with that God made
AMEN.

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Longwinded77,

Longwinded77,

Remember how Yahweh boasted in Exodus 34:10 (CEV) = "10 The Lord said:

I promise to perform miracles for you that have never been seen anywhere on earth. Neighboring nations will stand in fear and know that I was the one who did these marvelous things."

And the Yeshua whined that people didn't believe his tricks in Matthew 11:21-24 (CEV) = "21 You people of Chorazin are in for trouble! You people of Bethsaida are in for trouble too! If the miracles that took place in your towns had happened in Tyre and Sidon, the people there would have turned to God long ago. They would have dressed in sackcloth and put ashes on their heads.[a] 22 I tell you that on the day of judgment the people of Tyre and Sidon will get off easier than you will.

23 People of Capernaum, do you think you will be honored in heaven? You will go down to hell! If the miracles that took place in your town had happened in Sodom, that town would still be standing. 24 So I tell you that on the day of judgment the people of Sodom will get off easier than you."

It seems that Yeshua tried to fool people who knew better than to fall for his silly tricks. Too bad he didn't know his audience and didn't take his act to more receptive towns (Tyre, Sidon, Sodom).

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"What Do You Hear Reading

"What Do You Hear Reading This?" - absolute bollocks knowing how your posts tend to play out...

"Apart from God you cannot prove anything at all because God is our proof" - prove she exists

"There are no contradictions in the literary understandings of our Holy Bible" - and that my fellow primate, is the biggest load of bollocks I've read to date on here, congratulations!

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I hear what I usually hear

I hear what I usually hear when I am reading. I have tinnitus, so I hear a lot.

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This works also for the witch

This works also for the witch healer who's spamming all over around.

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I smell ugly troll. How is

I smell ugly troll. How is god proof of anything, you haven't even proven your god is real. All you do is quote the bible as proof. Give us some testable evidence that will pass peer review. You cry about sin, you cry about original sin. Didn't jesus die for our sin? Sounds like your judging us Atheist, didn't your bible tell you not to judge?

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Continually posting proselytizing posts that are not fact. Is trolling. When those lies are confronted and you don't defend them with REAL evidence is trolling. Ignoring replies to your OP is trolling. Generally insulting forum members with condescending comments is trolling.
Longwinded77 you have done nothing but troll since you have been here. When you first came people gave you the benefit of the doubt and tried to engage with you. You rebuffed those attempts and went full on troll. You can't prove any of your claims and continue to proselytize. You are obsessed with atheists (why I have no earthly idea) and actually, display a pathological disorder.

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Im at work and have

Im at work and have obligations other than defending myself by telling you the truth over and over ...of which you dont seem ignorant in understanding, but decide rather to just argue and pretend theres no God

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No, Longwinded 77 you don't

No, Longwinded 77 you don't tell the truth.

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You should be working on your

You should be working on your financial obligations instead of this, should you not??

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ARE YOU SURE YOU'RE NOT

ARE YOU SURE YOU'RE NOT PRETENDING THERE IS ONE????????

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"You rebuffed those attempts

"You rebuffed those attempts and went full on troll. You can't prove any of your claims and continue to proselytize. You are obsessed with atheists (why I have no earthly idea) and actually, display a pathological disorder."

Could be a troll... Could just be a total fucking muppet! Now, I'm no Sherlock Holmes........

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@Longwinded.....

@Longwinded.....

"Im at work and have obligations other than defending myself by telling you the truth over and over ...
of which you dont seem ignorant in understanding, but decide rather to just argue and pretend theres no God"

Couple of points....

"defending myself" ....?

You came to us.... You turned up here ,uninvited ,unwanted...unwelcome and then you procede to try to evangelise us...

You! with your inadequate knowledge of Atheism & Atheists....,and your even more inadequate knowledge of
Christianity ,Biblical History etc.

You, young man ,have delusions of adequacy .... you turned up here ,you picked this fight , and you have lost it.

You go on...

"and pretend theres no God"

WE are not the ones pretending...

You ask what I hear when reading your stuff .....

well ,what I hear is FEAR ... running its mouth off trying to justify 2000 years of baseless falsehoods ,fabrications ,misrepresentations ,contradictions and down right lies.

I hear the echoes of all those empty lies...... reverberating down the ages...

bouncing off the FACTS of history ,scholarship and archeaology.

Longwinded77's picture
       If you believe that

       If you believe that Jesus is a made up story... this message is for you.
       And if you need proof... Scholars have proven 99.99% accuracy in the word of the New Testament. How do we know that "Luke" actually wrote The Book of Luke in the New Testament? ...How do we know it wasn't just someone claiming to be Luke and distorting the true scriptures?
     ->... because these authentic scriptures were transcribed by scholars, both of the Christian faith and of the skeptic... and were kept true among them that transcribed and made multiple copies among multiple transcribers, which were proof read as proof-reading over-lapped proof-reading in order to maintain the absolute article in its direct writings ...to maintain the avoidance of discrepancies from the actual documented "diary" written by the person who actually wrote it, which in this case would be Luke.
    ...So, you Skeptics, ask yourselves this question ... "if Jesus didn't exist... you would think his brother James would have known that.  But, instead, James writes of Jesus's accounts with an accuracy you can trust in reading and learning from today in our Holy Bible. 
       ...Then some of you still might say, ..."where's the proof?"
       ... And to that question, I will have to answer this... "You will reply that I'm a troll---( again like usual )... Then you'll get that burning desire to shoot down EVERY thing I've just presented to you in this answer of mine... Then some of you find a way to just turn things into a joke and classify me, but you ALL still read up to this point because you're looking for answers... SO QUIT DODGING THEM WHEN THEY COME AT YA... How bout that for a change of lifestyle?... I pray for you pray for me,            Praise the Lord.

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@Longwinded...

@Longwinded...

Arrant non-sense....

"Scholars have proven 99.99% accuracy in the word of the New Testament."

EVIDENCE ??

Which scholars? , Do they have names?... is their work peer reviewed ? ...Where did you find this information..?

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The more historians and

The more historians and archaeologists discover the more accurate the Bible appears. How do you NOT see this?... EVEN TO TRY PROVING IT WRONG IS IGNORANT IN THE SCHOLARDLY POPULAR VOTE!!!# so whats the true issue with God that you have?! YOU...You, as in, -->yourself as an individual... (not you as a part of some 'forums' way of thinking)... But YOU in your own skin and thoughts at night and wonderings of truths and falsehoods CONSTANTLY in our minds of what to do... where to start... start by fearing God in His word (an owners manual from the owner Himself with complete instructions on how to live and STAY LIVING!) and then youll learn to revere God and have fearing in His absence holding faithful to the way, which is in our Lord Jesus Christ - the only begotten son of GOD our Father Amen.

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Hi, Longwinded77. I'm happy

Hi, Longwinded77. I'm happy you finally write something like a regular person, instead of just pasting parts of the Bible with no sense. I'll repeat the question above... What scholars? Because I look up some examples for you:

Please, watch this video (10'). A Bible scholar talks about its unaccuracy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mRYiplTf3I

And here's some other examples from religious sites: "We should not expect to find in Scripture full scientific accuracy or complete historical precision" and that, while the Bible is reliable when expressing truths connected to salvation, "we should not expect total accuracy from the Bible in other, secular matters."

From 'The Gift of A teaching document of the Bishops’ Conferences of England and Wales, and of Scotland'. You can download the full document in here: http://www.cbcew.org.uk/CBCEW-Home/Publications/The-Gift-of-Scripture-2005/(language)/eng-GB

And one from an another site: "You're always quoting the Bible to me as if were the last word on issues about life. How can you base your life on a book that's so full of contradictions and errors? Historians and scientists have long since proven that the Bible is inaccurate and unreliable".

You can read it in here: https://bible.org/article/how-accurate-bible. As you'll see in his profile, he author is a very religious scholar:
Cheers!

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@Longwinded77

@Longwinded77
"John Dominic Crossan

John Dominic Crossan (b. 1934) was co-chair of the Jesus Seminar from 1985 to 1996, which at semi-annual meetings debated the historicity of the life of Jesus as portrayed in the Gospels. Overwhelmingly, the Jesus Seminar has concluded that the vast majority of sayings usually ascribed to Jesus were never in fact uttered by him. Crossan has written twenty-five books on the historical Jesus and the historical Paul, five of which have been national religious bestsellers, including The Historical Jesus: The Life of a Mediterranean Jewish Peasant (1991). He has lectured worldwide to lay and scholarly audiences, and appeared in many key media venues. His basic message is that Jesus must be understood in historical context not as God per se but as a liberating figure who advanced the Kingdom of God"

Did you read this in you comment??

"the Jesus Seminar has concluded that the vast majority of sayings usually ascribed to Jesus were never in fact uttered by him"

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Yeah i read your thick necked

Yeah i read your thick necked smite, as always... Humans are fallible...in the flesh we sin. Our spirit is there waiting for us to understand and use it inorder to rise above OUR ONGOING BEBATE we currantly have. Do you feel no connection to another living soul/person, and if so... Then why?... What led to that closeness?... TIME SPENT did!!
...and Time spent searching for truth, instead of rebuttal and rebellion, WILL pay out in many ways/blessings for those who desire it, but if you just want to have fun then continuing to run in the ditch sounds like a blast so be it... Don't know how much more obvious something needs to be for you people... It was only made severely obvious to me less than 6 months ago a year ago... Take the time to investigate the father of our creation before it is too late for your soul to be saved by the healing spirit of Jesus Christ which is waiting with open arms to receive you into his holy truth... Then you can be saved... And then you can be rest assured... And then you can be without confusion... Because God is not the author of confusion the devil is amen

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Longwinded77 - Because God is

Longwinded77 - Because God is not the author of confusion...

V.S.

Genesis 11:7-9 Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.” So the Lord scattered them from there over all the earth, and they stopped building the city. That is why it was called Babel—because there the Lord confused the language of the whole world.

Longwinded77's picture
So whats your question?...

So whats your question?... BABBLE is the art of sin the world confuses people into and pulls them away from truth, because the opposite of truth IS babble... Mans traditions make void the word of God, which IS the truth.

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@Longwinded77: "BABBLE is the

@Longwinded77: "BABBLE is the art of sin the world confuses people"

No. "Babble" or "Babel" was the name of the tower. According to the fairy-tale, god was annoyed that people were working together so well and harmoniously, so he cursed them with different languages. In fact the main effects created by god according to the Bible are disruption, deception, discord, confusion, explosions, epidemics, pollution, wars, floods, and megadeath. We should be grateful he isn't real.

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Oh, man, it's impossible for

Oh, man, it's impossible for me to tell whether you're reciting the Bible or you're using your own words... Please, try to use 21st century English, for understanding purposes.

Do you feel no connection to another living soul/person, and if so... Then why?... What led to that closeness?... TIME SPENT did!!

I feel connected to every living being (person/animal/plant) on Earth (as a matter of fact Biology has proven that we share DNA even with plants), regardless of the time I've spent with them. I feel empathy with suffering people I've never met.

Take the time to investigate the father of our creation For investigating the origins of the Universe, we have top scientists working all over the world. I'm sure theoretical physicists and biologists are more qualified than you and me to solve that with intuition and false hopes.

Legitimate doubts, when the facts back up you, it's not a confusion. I think you're the one confusing terms.

Kwahu Jakquai's picture
You may wish to read some of

You may wish to read some of the content you're copying and pasting into comments, because they don't necessarily support your argument.

watchman's picture
@Longwinded...

@Longwinded...

Just for a minute there I was quite impressed..... I thought..."how professional.... he's taken the trouble to sort his posting into alphabetical order"...

But then I noticed that several of those listed do NOT actually agree with your tenuous point that scholars are verifying the Bible..

So a very little digging revealed where you found "your" list.....

http://superscholar.org/features/20-most-influential-christian-scholars/

It appears that inclusion in your list is purely random... in that many of those listed ,albeit Christian to a degree, do not support the assertions you make re,biblical veracity.

Finally in closing.... do you actually have ANY references to anyone who can endorse the 99% validity of the Bible claim...(New or Old Testament) ?

Nyarlathotep's picture
Longwinded77 - ...but decide

Longwinded77 - ...but decide rather to just argue and pretend theres no God

The presuppositionalism raises it's head again. The claim typically goes something like: everyone believes in god, those who say they don't are lying.

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Todays generation has an "ism

Todays generation has an "ism" an "ation" an all-around abomination-type ignorant literature about thier athiestic points of views, which stem from the teachings of traditions of man... beliefs of worldly influences above our Saviours intented reaching out to you.
And sadly ignorance dominates present day it seems ... Oh our people, let us pray for total unification amonst the Christian in faith finds Christ our reality... Not just a mere "religion"

Why do I believe that Jesus is who he said he is? Because, not only does the evidence strongly support that, but also through the Salvation I continue to experience daily in his faith! His Hope Has transformed me to see and believe wholeheartedly in His Infinite Wisdom. Life comes from him and death finds those opposed. Seek his eternal life for flesh is short-lived amen.

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Texts from the QURAN. Please,

Texts from the QURAN. Please, change Allah for God... Does it sound familiar???

"Allah’s power and wisdom are limitless and beyond our comprehension. But guess what? There is a key that brings Allah’s infinite wisdom into play in your life. That key is prayer. (...) Miracles happen every day. Do you not believe that miracles can happen in your life as well? (...)SubhanAllah. Allah sees and knows every fallen leaf (...) and He knows your innermost thoughts.". (Quran 50:16)

"Allah is near to you because He loves you. He is near to you because He cares about you and understands your pain. He is near to you so that He can help you. (...). You only have to turn to Him, and call upon Him; and His wisdom, power and guidance will manifest in your life.I personally went through a very difficult period when I was younger.(...). But I kept my faith in Allah, (...) I trusted Allah, and I knew that He would not abandon me."

From: http://islamicsunrays.com/prayer-is-the-key/

How can we tell what the truth is if it's exactly the same? Quran or the Bible? If you cannot see that "holy" books are man-made, you've totally lost your critical thinking hability

Btw, " Life comes from him and death finds those opposed." Unfortunately, death finds us all.
P.S. I've edited this comment after posting to make it shorter.

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I'd like to offer a different

I'd like to offer a different claim...

Everyone does not believe in God, those that say they do are weak minded fools that allow themselves to be conditioned.

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