What are people's opinions of pandeism?

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What are people's opinions of pandeism?

I am an atheist and a pandiest, and no, that is not a contradiction; I do not believe in any theistic "philosophy" or tenants, and I believe in a specific flavor of pandeism, in which the pandeus arose through the same mechanisms that all other physical systems exist.

My particular belief in pandeism is that out of the multi-verse, where there may indeed be infinite "universes", one of those universes gained self-awareness and "transcended" itself, and also "transcended" all other "universes". It does not posit that this pandeus intervenes in any "universe" or that a heaven/hell extremist afterlife exists, instead, this particular belief attempts to ground itself in physical theory and explores the possibilities of a boundless multi-verse. One supposition is that an afterlife exists as a sort of imprint on the "universe" like the preservation of quantum information, where the consciousness of an individual is conserved across the multi-verse as described by Sir Roger Penrose.

A part of this belief is that the entire multi-verse is infinite in time, divided up among black-hole/white-hole condensation/expansion "universes" and big bounces. That infinite value seems to permit almost anything happening, where the more probable instances are most likely to occur.

The Pandeist's Wager https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWCysekf3fk

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Aposteriori unum's picture
Right right. How do we know

Right right. How do we know the difference between this pandeist universe and just a plain old universe?

ʝօɦռ 6IX ɮʀɛɛʐʏ's picture
A plain old universe, meaning

A plain old universe, meaning a universe in which none of the pandeist statements are true?

Nyarlathotep's picture
Well a universe were at least

Well a universe were at least some of them aren't true. Wanting to know the differences between system X and system Y is a good question, if you are interested in reality; or you can just scream "god did it".

ʝօɦռ 6IX ɮʀɛɛʐʏ's picture
The question answers itself

The question answers itself then in my opinion. To know what the plain old universe entails, is to know the difference between it and the pandeist universe. If however, the question assumes the two universes are basically synonymous and indistinguishable so far in the conversation, and is looking for additional information that might better distinguish between the two, then it would be helpful to know just what the notion of a plain old universe entails.

Aposteriori unum's picture
The question is a scalpel, it

The question is a scalpel, it's meant to expose what's underneath... Either one has no way to tell the difference... In which case who cares, Occam's razor can take care of that. Or... There is something that one can do that would only be possible in one universe or another... But wait, how then would you know the difference? I could say that a is only possible in universe a and b is only possible in universe b, but how do I know in the first place? Have I been to another universe?

There's a lot of power behind that question, breezy. Now we wait for the op to answer...

chimp3's picture
How the hell does a universe

How the hell does a universe "gain self awareness"? Silly!

mykcob4's picture
@ Ghost Liberty

@ Ghost Liberty
You are NOT an atheist and that is the screwiest bullshit I have ever read. Do you have any REAL proof at all?
I just love it when someone with a crackpot theory comes on the forum and proposes some ridiculous bullshit. Makes me think that the war on drugs is far from over.

mykcob4's picture
@ Ghost Liberty

@ Ghost Liberty
You are NOT an atheist and that is the screwiest bullshit I have ever read. Do you have any REAL proof at all?
I just love it when someone with a crackpot theory comes on the forum and proposes some ridiculous bullshit. Makes me think that the war on drugs is far from over.

Sushisnake's picture
" What are people's opinions

" What are people's opinions of pandeism?
I am an atheist and a pandiest, and no, that is not a contradiction..."
Um...yep, yep it is.

A deist believes there is an intelligent creative being or force that created the universe, then wandered off and left us to it. It has no further interest in us at all. It doesn’t care if we're good, bad or indifferent. It doesn’t care if we live or die. It's nothing personal, it's just indifferent. A pandeist believes there is more than one of these creative beings or forces.

An atheist believes there is no intelligent creative being or force at all.

There's nothing wrong with being a pandeist, but you can't be a pandeist and an atheist.

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