Jeff, Pragmatic, CyberLN, Nyaslathter, watchman . "Debates" have been argued with Valiya about the truth and validity of the Koran. These "discussions have been going on for pages and pages and pages(about 13) so far. Very heavy seeming learned arguments with great detail were used to express different "truths" or not truths of the Koran. When atheists tried to prove the inconsistences of the Koran Valiya counted with "proof" that the Koran was not inconsistent. This went back and forth for many many pages.No one seemed to get "the upper hand". Atheists and Valiya were very sophisticated in their "debates" but it seemed Valiya was steadfast in his defense of the truth of the Koran. In one discussion Atheists tired to prove the inconsistences of the Koran regarding the number of days it took God to create the world. Stubbornly but articulating Valiya "proved" the Koran cannot be inconsistent as it is the "truth" and word of God. Whether it took 7 or 8 days---What difference does it make if the Koran is consistent with a 7 day interpretation. The significance is not if the Koran is consistent but the "idea" God created the world at all in whatever days is ridiculous. Is the story of Adam and Eve and the talking snake true. The "truth" and the inconsistences of the Koran was argued in great intellectual detail...........Even if Valiya can "win" every argument with regard to the consistency of the Koran ideas like Adam and Eve Donald trump everything. ...............Morality----Atheists and Valiya discussed in great detail the philosophy, consistency, science, legitimacy, validity and history of the Koran. Valiya and the atheists each made good arguments but neither convinced the other of the "truth" of the Koran. All that energy, time and intellectual bullshit was a waste of time. The immorality of the Koran Donald trump everything. The penalty for a Moslem to leave the faith is DEATH. The penalty for adultery for a Moslem woman is to be stoned to DEATH.. The penalty for homosexuality is to be thrown from a building and DEATH. There is ,many more examples of the "horror" of Islam. What the fuck difference does it make if the Koran was perfect to arguments of consistency(and it is not)- But the bullshit about miracles and "morality" Donald trumps everything.
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"All that energy, time and intellectual bullshit was a waste of time."
If you cannot see that this is not only an exchange of ideas but also a war of ideas, and the only way that battle is going to be 'won' is through a constant discussion OF these ideas then I pity your ignorance.
Alphalogical-I have to control myself from telling you to go F--k yourself. Exchange of ideas between 2 economics or 2 biologists or 2 physicists or 2 poets or 2 musicians or 2 doctors or 2 plumbers or 2 basket weavers can be productive and civil in their arguments. Trying to "debate" with Viliva is not only futile but an insult to me even controlling my anger or hostility. I couldn't help myself not to be civil. In fact I may resort to bad language (doody face or worse.) if you want to exchange ideas with Viliva go ahead--Tell Valiya how wrong he is in the nicest, kindest, gentle, positive and "happy" way. Debate Viliya as an equal with different "beliefs" Have your intellectual soft and mild and easy going discussion. Make sure you compliment him on his skills of debate. Alphalogical---that's ok being the wimp that you are. Not me!!!! I couldn't have a "mild" discussion with a Nazi. I couldn't be easy going in a debate with a racist. I couldn't try to have an "intellectual" conversation with a sex molester. No No way could I even try to communicate with Valiya without telling him as I told you go f--k yourself. The evil and horror of Islam in no better than the racist, Nazi motherfucker. Be nice to Valiya -be logical as your stupid name implies but not me!!!!!! You stated "you pity my ignorance.." I happen to be a very very intelligent and handsome person. I pity your lack of anger or outrage of the horrible, horrible, terrible bad ideas and beliefs of Viliya and Islam.
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"fred,k" is actually the infamous troll of the Atheist Republic forum.
Generally referred to as "Kenny", has been banned many times under different names.
Previously known aliases include: "Kenny Schweiger", "Kenny", "myself", "alleycat", "richardd", "Christopher", "marken", "punkin", "amber", "Simon".
Claims to be an atheist. But he has a fondness for using "sarcasm", even though no one ever gets his sarcasm and he has been told this many times, he keeps posting such deceiving comments.
He seems obsessed with religions, creationists and the stupidity of Fox News, Bill O'Reilly, Joel Osteen, Ted Cruz, Sean Hannity, Donald Trump, Vanna White, Sarah Palin, etc.
This announcement will be posted whenever he spams, agitates, confuses or flies of the handle.
Also, he finds these announcements 'boring'.
Pragmatic-Can't you be more creative with your Public information announcement. You are boring with your many posts and boring in telling me to go f--k myself. Just say Kenny myself alleycat, richardd Christopher, marken, punk1n, amber Simon is a pain in the ass(even though I am a handsoime and intelligent kind creative, funny human being. God Bless. Have a nice day.
I always take it as a sign of victory when they move on to the ad hominem
-Christopher Hitchens
same here, Genetic Fallacies are often the only way they have to try to escape the fact that they were proven wrong or inaccurate in a mature discussion.
Jeff says:"same here. Genetic Fallacies are often the only way they have to try to escape the fact that they are proven wrong or inaccurate in a mature discussion.. Who said that. Deeprok Chopra has joined the forum.. Who else can "say" such bullshit... No it is Jeff--Who else can write words in an intellectual fog that means nothing. Jeff is the champion of word crap.
Do not feed the trolls. We should just straight up stop replying to this "Kenny" guy. He's just trying to get a rise out of us for his own benefit.
Austin--Love and kisses--Nice face you have--keep the glasses-get rid of the hat-Austin tell me what this means "Genetic fallacies are often the only way they have to try to escape the fact that they are proven wrong or inaccurate in a mature discussion. " Austin if you tell me what that means you can keep the hat. I excuse your lack of a sense of humor and criticizing a superior intellect and handsome person(me) as a problem of you youth. As you get older and mature you will make more sensible arguments. I look forward to having a meaningful conversation with you when you get older... God Bless ..............Attention::::: Austin my post is an attempt at humor(in case you haven't figured it out). I mean no offense just trying to lighten things up a little. Don't be so serious. Have a nice day
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Viliya and Lloveqestions --Why do you continue to argue with those that believe in Adam and Eve and the talking snake. I am confused of discussions with "believers" of Noah's arc or Moses getting the 10 commandments from the burning bush(God). I refuse to embarrass myself to "debate" religious idiots that believe foolish things. I take an oath never to engage in any discussions or debates with idiots and morons. God Bless
Islam --not so nice