Ok, one last post before I go.

There's a theme running through this entire thread, even this board in places, and it is hardly a strawman.

"Everything spiritual isn't about asserting or challenging a set of beliefs."

When I first came here and shared the basis of my belief, I soon found myself immersed in a game where a whole lot of energy was directed into digging out subjective truths out of someone and trying to get the person to provide objective proof for them. I can see that as a very fun game to play, especially with those who try to make out like their subjective is objective. It's a fun enough game, so I played it, wiggling a little comment here and there to see how much effort would be made to get me to assert an unfalsifiable belief so it could be challenged to provide objective evidence. Lather, rinse, repeat.

Then I found here in this thread that the game of challenging belief might just be something that is being used to suppress angst. And that the spiritual side of some, by no means all here in the forum, is being suppressed via that drive to find and root out assertions that can't be proven, to keep angst at bay. That drive can turn a ten post thread into a two hundred post monster if one doesn't satiate it. That's my subjective opinion from observation.

I implore all, don't deny what makes you whole, and I'm not talking about God or anything supernatural here, I'm talking about your own spirituality, which does indeed exist in every fully functional human. If might indeed awaken your own doubt, your angst, but when embraced, it can be a very wonderful thing, and a much more fulfilling existence in my personal experience. I think that Sam Harris book might be a great guide to help get there without concern about running into someone else's subjective beliefs in the process. It outlines exactly what I am talking about here, and he makes excellent points along the way, all without adding dogma.

"Everything spiritual isn't about asserting or challenging a set of beliefs."