THE STRAW GOD FALLACY

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ʝօɦռ 6IX ɮʀɛɛʐʏ's picture
THE STRAW GOD FALLACY
  • Me - Hey, let's talk about consciousness!
  • Others - No, prove God first
  • Me - Hey, let's talk about morality!
  • Others- No, prove God first
  • Me - Hey, let's talk about evolution!
  • Others - No, that doesn't prove God

I've coined the term The Straw God Fallacy to describe the behavior of rebutting a Christian's argument, by attacking a Christian's beliefs.

I don't argue religiously. If this were a Catholic forum, my discussions would take a Religious approach. But a Biblical approach is wasted on an atheist audience. I focus on making non-religious, scientific, and philosophical arguments. I present my responses in whatever way I think they are most likely to be received and agreed upon. I don't think I've ever made an argument on these forums, which require God's existance. If I have they are few and far between.

Labels are useful tools, but they must be used properly. People tend to see my label and not my arguments. They think that refuting my label, is a valid rebuttal to my arguments. For example, if you disagree with my arguments on subjective morality, you might be tempted to attack the Bible's morality, as if by default my argument is also refuted. Or if you disagree with my arguments on evolution, you might be tempted to attack Young Earth Creationism, as if by debunking it, my position is weakened.

The constant request for evidence of God is particularly interesting. As far as I'm concerned, God doesn't exist for the purposes of these discussions. Whatever my personal beliefs are outside these forum, shouldn't be inferred or supposed unless I use them in my arguments. I've even been asked emphatically for evidence of souls before, which is funny given that my denomination doesn't believe in souls.

Address my arguments, not my Christian label.

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Old man shouts at clouds's picture
You don't have any valid
ʝօɦռ 6IX ɮʀɛɛʐʏ's picture
I'm not being victimized. I'm
Sheldon's picture
No one cares, get over
jonthecatholic's picture
I’m using this term more
Old man shouts at clouds's picture
I wouldn't JoC it will lead
jonthecatholic's picture
Catholic fallacies?
algebe's picture
@JoC Catholic fallacies?
ʝօɦռ 6IX ɮʀɛɛʐʏ's picture
Oh that reminds me. Didn't
algebe's picture
@John 61X Breezy: Didn't you
jonthecatholic's picture
If the Christian worldview
Sheldon's picture
"However, the Christian
algebe's picture
@JoC Meaning he in fact make
LogicFTW's picture
I think we can all agree
algebe's picture
@JoC: Within itself, there is
LogicFTW's picture
Thinking critically about any
Sky Pilot's picture
JoC,
Old man shouts at clouds's picture
Only if you accept the NT was
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@JoC
jonthecatholic's picture
How are those fallacies? And
Old man shouts at clouds's picture
"A fallacy is the use of
jonthecatholic's picture
Okay. So no formal fallacies
LucyAustralopithecus's picture
he said catholic fallacies,
jonthecatholic's picture
Exactly. So none are formal
Nyarlathotep's picture
JoC - So no formal fallacies
Old man shouts at clouds's picture
I already gave you the
Old man shouts at clouds's picture
Now you are sounding like
Sheldon's picture
"How are those fallacies?"
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They beatified that sadistic
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@Breezy
chimp3's picture
John: Creationist arguments

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