Reality vs, Creativity

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Mikeykitty123's picture
Reality vs, Creativity

Since people here like to talk about reality and what's considered real, then I guess I'll speak about it.
But I guess no one here will ever agree with anything that I am saying so I have no idea why I even bother, but I just don't care anymore.

Creativity is pointless. Period. Just because we want something to be real that doesn't mean it will. Wishful thinking gets us nowhere. Believing in things are for stupid people. Imagination and creativity never benefits anybody so it might as well just be something that many countries should ban because of how pointless it is.

Reality is when people die all the time for no reason whatsoever and that happiness is just a made up thing to say. There's no such thing as happiness. There's no such thing as love. Love is just a term used for people who want to fuck one another. Nothing more.
Reality tells us that only the strong and able survive. The goal of life is live as long as possible before dying and rotted away. Everything else is just a bunch of stupid shit like unnecessary filler in a movie or TV show. Nothing but pointless shit to keep us busy living before we die a pointless death. And when people die, they're gone forever. That is fact. No one gives a shit about how you feel. No one gives a shit of what you think. Because in the end, creativity and beliefs are only for stupid cunts who can't grasp the idea of the real world being nothing but a empty planet filled with living organisms that have no reason to live whatsoever. Life sucks, and we just need to deal with it. If someone dies, who cares? It just means they don't exist anymore. Nothing else. We live just so we can die and be born again. Everything else is just there to distract us from the truth, and the truth is that feelings don't mean shit and nothing we do as a species will ever accomplish anything of value.

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mickron88's picture
"so I have no idea why I even

"so I have no idea why I even bother, but I just don't care anymore."

so why bother?

Mikeykitty123's picture
I don't know. I guess I just

I don't know. I guess I just feel like talking about how shit life is and how worthless I am.

mickron88's picture
"i know the chances are a

"i know the chances are a billions to one that i'm on this planet as me and never will be again"
~Ricky Gervais

you're not worthless, don't say that...if you do things that are against other peoples will then you can.
but i can see that you'll understand this all, in time. just enjoy life and...be your self and not worry about this sort of things

life is too short to be anxious about it. and mind is a terrible thing to waste..

if god really exist michael, i think he wants you to enjoy the company of your family and appreciate every people that surrounds you and care for you. and cherish them forever. that's how you live your life. says god.

and what i really do know is.. the only judgement day is when your dead.. that's the end of the world for that individual.

*tilting head while grinning*

Sushisnake's picture
https://youtu.be/9JubaAS1v-w
arakish's picture
@Michael: "Imagination and

@Michael: "Imagination and creativity never benefits anybody..."

Really?

Elemental Stones — The Elemental Stones made for my novel on the world of Onaviu.

The Great Eclipse — Using Celestia, I discovered there was going to be an eclipse during the novel I am writing.

Burning Heavens Map — A commissioned map for a portion of a role-playing world.

Mariner Kingdom of Myandikar — Another commissioned map for a portion of a role-playing world.

If "imagination and creativity never benefits anybody," then please explain the imagination and creativity I applied to creating these images...

Now I am off to re-read the OP and the responses...

rmfr

Edit to add: NEVER, EVER think of thyself as being worthless. Every person has worth.

2nd Edit: meant to add a link to Celestia.

Mikeykitty123's picture
Because those are not real.

Because those are not real. Just making fictional stories. Real life is the only thing that really matters.

Terminal Dogma's picture
Is Michael just trolling or

Is Michael just trolling or does he suffer from depression?

Not sure how to respond, guy already admitted to self harming.

Mikeykitty123's picture
I am not. Since obviously

I am not. Since obviously since everything people here say is 100% true and I am always 100% wrong, then I am just going by facts.

LogicFTW's picture
Reality truly is the eye of

Reality truly is the eye of the beholder. As you surmised, our reality is simply electrical biochemical signals interpreted by our brain, that interfaces with our stored memory.

Creativity to me is very useful. Creativity allows us to make all sorts of advancements. If we were not creative, we would not be here chatting on "forums" thousands of miles apart in mere milliseconds. We would not have a complex language to share thoughts. We would be less able to utilize the world around us then even a basic insect with a brain/central nervous center the size of a pinhead.

It is true the reality is people die all the time. Many people cannot face the reality that they may die at anytime, even out of their control.

Love is most definitely not a term people use to describe really just wanting to fuck each other. Maybe a small subset of people think that way, but I can assure you many people do no operate in a way that "love" is a code for I want to fuck you and only that.

Hopefully you have people in your life that do give a shit about how you feel. If you do not, I would work on finding people that do. (Although you may want to work on your general attitude if you want to more easily find people that care.)

We do not live to die at least I certainly do not., and all evidence points towards that we are not "born again."

I am very aware of the insignificance of our lives in the grand scheme of things, it bothered me too at a young age, that our lives are finite, that we may well not be able to control our time of passing, (we can certainly lower our own odds though!)

...Yet, I am one of the happiest, and most free person I know. I am free of having my life meaning set for me, I am free to make my own life meaning and it can be anything I want. I am free to enjoy this life, one I firmly believe is my only and may, (but unlikely to,) end 5 minutes from now. I seek out and find what gives me satisfaction, happiness, comfort. As I grow older, I find hard fought achievement is some of the greatest and most profound ways to feel satisfaction and happiness. I pursue these things. I am also allowed to take a day off and just sit back and relax and enjoy life as it is now. To marvel in all the incredible complexity and ponder my own existence.

Mikeykitty123's picture
Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic

Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic. You only seek what makes you happy? Wake up idiot. NO ONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK AND FEEL! THIS IS THE REAL WORLD! You can gloat about how "happy" and "free", but yet you will realize that in the end, none of it ever matter.

LogicFTW's picture
@Michael

@Michael
I do not care much what 99.9999 percent of all people, that they care about what I think or feel. Including you, I care about what I think and feel. I tried to share what worked for me when facing the thoughts in your OP, but apparently you are not interested in that. That is fine. Not sure why you are here, putting out questions that seem geared towards wanting response, but then dismissing all responses out of hand.

My happiness and freedom matters to me. Other people's happiness and freedom also matters to me, to a lesser extent, starting with the people I am closest with, their happiness and freedom matters to me a great deal, and then downward to how important to me to people I never met. Probably near the bottom of "the I care what other people feel index" is people that just want to complain about how miserable they are, but not seek any answers, solutions, or advice from others, simply just rejecting them. Especially people that call others "pathetic" when they try to offer advice that works for them.

Mikeykitty123's picture
I am just going by what I was

I am just going by what I was taught in this website.

arakish's picture
OK. Let's try another tact.

OK. Let's try another tact. Please explain what you have "been taught" on this website.

Instead of spewing these whiney-ass bullshits, tells us what you have been taught on this website.

rmfr

LogicFTW's picture
Well you already said:

Well you already said: "willpower" when I never mentioned willpower in a reply to me. Perhaps you should more carefully read what people have to say.

I find very little on this forum where the regulars say "life is meaningless" I have seen long threads talking about the meaning of life, especially in terms of an absent a god idea that provided all the easy answers to people that believed in it. As the question comes up fairly often for people that recently abandoned religion and its easy manipulative answers to everything that religion uses to draw people in to a fact devoid human created idea.

Cognostic's picture
@ Creativity Vs. Reality -

@ Creativity Vs. Reality - how are they different. You appear to be confusing "Fantasy" with "Creativity." Reality is there, how you use it is creativity. Creativity is the matrix of any good story based in reality. Fantasy is when you escape reality and take whimsical flight into the imagination, still creative but not necessarily real.

@Just because we want something to be real that doesn't mean it will. (True - we would all like you to begin making some sort of sense in your posts. I would like to see you post a single idea instead of the
diarrhea you do. Diarrhea is not creativity of fantasy even when it is done off the back of a magical flying, all knowing, invisible, sky daddy.

@Reality is when people die all the time for no reason whatsoever . (Sometimes that's just true.)

@There's no such thing as happiness. (Then I should probably stop laughing at this post.)

@ Love is just a term used for people who want to fuck one another. (Sometimes - that's why it pays to be a bit careful. When the testosterone flows, the little brain often takes over. I'm fairly sure most men have experienced this.)

@ Reality tells us that only the strong and able survive.. (Reality says no such thing. You do not understand the idea of survival of the fittest. Human beings have never been the strongest. 3 other species of humanoids have already become extinct. There is only us left. Those who can adapt or endure are the most likely to survive. "Strength" has very little to do with it, though it could be a possible element depending on circumstances.)

@ The goal of life is live as long as possible before dying and rotted away. (That may be the goal of your life but I have other things on my mind. You enjoy your wait. I have things to do.)

@ Everything else is just a bunch of stupid shit like unnecessary filler in a movie or TV show. (Wow! If you actually understood what you just said here you would be a genius. It's an excellent observation. The question is, how do you tell the important stuff from all the stupid shit. The better you get at this the wiser you become and the less you worry about all the stupid shit.)

@And when people die, they're gone forever. (Makes sense to me. You got any evidence to the contrary?)

@ creativity and beliefs are only for stupid cunts who can't grasp the idea of the real world being nothing but a empty planet filled with living organisms. (We already covered creativity!)

@ that have no reason to live whatsoever. (Your reason to live is your own. Life lives to perpetuate life. The question is, "Now that you have life, what will you do with it." )

@ Life sucks, and we just need to deal with it. (Sometimes. And when it doesn't suck it's great. I am of course referring to the life I choose to live and not "LIFE" itself. )

@ We live just so we can die and be born again. (Um.... not so sure about the "born again" part. You got any evidence at all for that assertion? )

@Everything else is just there to distract us from the truth, and the truth is that feelings don't mean shit and nothing we do as a species will ever accomplish anything of value.

We have to break this one down. Yes there are many distractions and frankly very few truths. One truth certainly is that feelings don't mean shit. A wise man will wake up, turn off his alarm clock every morning, dress, and find his way to report to work, even at a job he hates. He will do it for the love of his family, to see his children smile, and because he wants to be a good father. The feeling of success and achievement in this are personal and they outweigh the feeling of dread he faces each morning as the alarm sounds. The world is a place of competing feelings. People usually do things to get some sort of pay-back. As you keep writing to this site, most of us are convinced that you are just a troll. Few believe that you are as ignorant as you pretend to be. Still, the responses in the posts are not just for you. They are for those that come after you and have the intelligence and curiosity to explore. You keep writing your posts and making absurd assertions and connections and we will keep responding. The absurdities running from you fingers as you type are actual absurdities many of the religious hold to be true so it is nice to have them expressed and responded to openly. Even if you get nothing at all from these trolls but a chuckle, those who come after may find them useful.

Beyond food, shelter, clothing, safety and security, the choice as to what matters is frequently left up to you. The more your choices align with reality, the more functional and happier you will tend to be. I say more functional because there are plenty of happy people in the psych ward. You get to choose what matters to you. Choose wisely.

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