Recently we have had a plethora of nutcase christians come on the forum. They have been continually violating two rules of the forum.
Rule #1 No trolling and rule # 10 No advertising or self-promotion.
Of course, the christian nut cases don't think they are "trolling" but that is exactly what proselytizing is.
They don't think that they are in violation of rule # 10 when they post a website (not as a proof or reference) to invite people to join in on another site but that is really a violation.
Here is the thing. When a new member starts a new thread and promotes their god that is a minor infraction. I'm sure we can all ignore that. But when faced with any questions about their original post they ignore those post and continue to proselytize that IS a CLEAR violation. I have no idea what the penalty for such an infraction is, but at least the thread should be locked and that person barred from the forum.
The same goes for solicitation and or self-promotion.
I see another problem that comes from these christian posters...actually 2 problems which are common occurrences.
1) The designate themselves as "atheist." I guess so they can enter areas that they are not allowed. But for whatever the reason, that is misrepresentation at the very least.
2) They keep starting threads that are basically the same thing, i.e. duplication with minor variances. It is all so damned annoying.
This is a forum for discussion and debate, for communing and interaction. It is not a forum for preaching and proselytizing. Of course, if a christian wants to make a claim and defend that assertion...FUCKING GREAT...FANTASTIC! As long as they don't start another thread exactly like the one before....no problemo!
Recently I have purposely been more demonstrative towards these people. I know it is all that they understand. Some say that I am old and cranky. Fine, I don't care about personal insults directed at me. I probably am cranky and I AM relatively old. That doesn't change the fact of the practices and violations by these christian posters.
So if any moderators actually have authority, please review this post and look at what is going on. If you can take action please do so. If not, take down the forum rules because they are uselss otherwise!
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Take a break.
Given your beliefs, I'm sure YOU support proselytizing. So your insult post is NOT surprising. Proselytizing IS trolling! You want to discuss, fine. You want to make a claim and defend it, fine, but don't proselytize or solicit another site. I haven't seen you do that as of yet, even though I have seen posts where you support such activity. I am sure it is just a matter of time until you start such activity. When you do, I will point it out. The greatest threat to lies and wrongful behavior is exposure. I will not sit back and allow christian crackpots to come here and conduct themselves outside the parameters of the forum rules.
You seriously need to relax. You're pretty bias and angry ALL the time. Even when people are having a civil conversation you jump in to calling people crackpots and now you're accusing me of "It's only a matter of time before you start that behavior". Don't give me that excuse of "Oh I'm pointing out bs wherever I see it and bs makes me angry! I'm bias towards not seeing bs!" Don't bother. Because it will only continue to make my point. You believe you are rational and the smartest person in the room already. But you're really just an angry man behind a keyboard who can't handle a different point of view about the world. It's either your point of view or it's bullshit.
As I said. Take a break. Oh and to add to that. Grow up.
Funny how you have missed every single point about me. As I stated I am harsh toward christians because I have had years of experience with them....over 5 decades worth. Biased? Sure I have a different point of view. I don't accept most christian statements because let's face it, they're all bullshit.
You see anger only because that is what you want to see. I am aggressive. I don't profess to be the smartest in the room....that would probably be Nyarlathotep...easily! I am a damn sight brighter than most christians.
Christians always start from a false premise. They have to fit the narrative to a predetermined outcome. As for calling people crackpots that is explainable. When people make inane statements when they don't accept facts, when the employ pseudo-science, and revisionist history they are indeed crackpots. I can suspect that you will embark on a troll because I have history on my side. As I said, to my knowledge you haven't done so, but just given the fact that you object to me calling for the rules to be enforced means that you sympathize and support trolling and solicitation.
Your "point" is obviously that you don't want ANY christian statement exposed for what it is....BULLSHIT!
If you have a point, if you want a discussion, if you can accept critique and FACTS then all is well. That isn't what happens here. The usual practice is that a christian will join the board on false pretense. Then one of two things happen. 1) they begin proselytizing and/or 2) they solicit people to join another site.
So Sauron do you object to the forum rules? Are you planning on solicitation or proselytizing? Which is it?
You being ANGRY about this thread is odd since I didn't accuse you of anything until you started defending people breaking the forum rules. So maybe it is YOU that should relax. If my accusations don't include you, then WHY should it upset you? Oh, I know why. It's all about christians and how they have to dominate everyone and everything. Well, FUCK THAT! It's not going to happen here!
Thanks for proving the point I was making. You just can't be wrong. lol. You won't even admit to the possibility because you already say "I have history on my side" and "All Christian statements are bs". There is no having a discussion with you because you seem to be an old man set in his ways. And that's fine. But you're just a rabid dog in all discussions I've seen you in. And by the way, I've seen you respond that way to non Christians.
@ Sauron
You opinion sobeit!
Hi Sauron
What is the possibility of you calling into the Atheist Experience tomorrow?
Good luck policing that. Theists will always lie to gain entry to populations to proselytize. They will exploit any gray area by claiming they are in some transitional phase of their life between theism and atheism. People you purge this week my claim they are a true atheists again next week.
Who will we debate with on a debate forum?
I get it. We don't want theists to stay away... AND we don't want them routinely violating the rules. Hopefully, there is a happy medium
Myk, per your request, as the forum mod, I've reviewed your OP. I currently see nothing which requires that I take any action. If, imo, however, someone crosses the line, you can rest assured I will address it as I have consistently done in the past.
I had a question about that. I posted a thread asking if people wanted to debate on Skype. Is this in violation of rule 10? If so, I can take it down right away.
If I had considered it an overt violation of the rules, I would have done so already, RW.
RW: If you ever call the Atheist Experience show on a Sunday. Please let us know what first name you will call under so we will know it is you.
Noted CyberLN. I just wanted to take notice of the trolling and solicitation that seems to have recently come about. I too welcome theist to come here and discuss, but I am not in favor of coming here and ask people to join other sites. I am also disturbed by the duplicate threads of the same old tired line poorly camouflaged as different threads. Proselytizing IS trolling, and I feel there are a number of troll threads. I trust you are monitoring this activity and when necessary will take appropriate action.
Look on the bright side. I'm sure some of these would-be missionaries go away with seeds of doubt planted in their minds, both about the nature of atheists and atheism, and also about their own brands of holy hokum.
At the very least, they get their vocabularies expanded.