Purpose

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Tue, 02/20/2018 - 13:07

(Reply to #211) #212

Sheldon

"Life's purpose is self evident. Life exists to perpetuate life. Life feeds on life. Life creates more life. Life is the Ouroboros. Life exists for life. If you live, you serve life's purpose. If you die, you serve life's purpose. If you refuse to serve life's purpose you still serve life's purpose. There is no escaping."

I'd say life exists *because it can perpetuate itself, not *to perpetuate itself, as this seems to imply more than can be objectively evidenced for me, almost implying sentience behind biological processes like evolution. I think life can serve our purpose if we want it to and circumstances permit. I don't think life has a purpose as the processes that have perpetuated it are insentient. Humans are sentient and so can have purpose, evolution is insentient and so has no purpose.

Mon, 02/19/2018 - 20:04

#213

ProgrammingGodJordan

I don't say it is infeasible

The Blindwatchmaker said:

I don't say it is infeasible to imagine that humans may have purpose, but in science it is a must to follow the evidence regardless of what we want to see or how we feel about the data.

1.) In fact, I invented something called "non-beliefism". I aim to generate hypotheses/theories/implementations, especially given observations or evidence.

2.) Reasonably, due to my invention above, I could precisely learn to reject feelings. (Before constructing the hypothesis I thought life was purposeless, but I had by then learnt to reasonably ignore feelings, especially when I found out that science may concern purpose in 2016.)

Mon, 02/19/2018 - 20:09

(Reply to #213) #214

Sapporo

Even if there were no polar

Even if there were no polar bears, life's purpose would be to create polar bears. The existence of the anteater cannot change that.

Tue, 02/20/2018 - 13:20

(Reply to #214) #215

Sheldon

1.) In fact, I invented

1.) In fact, I invented something called "non-beliefism". I aim to generate hypotheses/theories/implementations, especially given observations or evidence.

If you read that aloud in the open air, I bet birds will fall stunned from the sky. Chloroform in print.
-------------------------------------------
"PARADIGM?
Beyond atheism, non-beliefism enables a state of mind that rejects not merely religious belief, but the very concept of belief.
HOW TO DISCARD BELIEFS, IN 3 SIMPLE STEPS:"

How to lose consciousness in three simple steps more like..

Step 1

"Crucially, non-beliefism does not underline that we have to access all the evidence possible, to avoid belief."

I can feel myself drifting away...

Mon, 02/19/2018 - 20:13

#216

ProgrammingGodJordan

Cognostic said:

Cognostic said:

At any rate, your purpose in this life will be your own

That is precisely the type of idea I had for some time (some subjective thing). After that I thought life was purposeless, and then I found out that science may concern purpose. I then set out to create my hypothesis back in 2016 (something that aims to be objective.)

Mon, 02/19/2018 - 20:23

(Reply to #216) #217

Sapporo

When the polar bear catches

When the polar bear catches the fish, he does not ask himself whether he is the purpose of life, or whether its purpose is the mere act of creation of his kind. Nonetheless, life creates itself in its image.

Mon, 02/19/2018 - 22:44

#218

ProgrammingGodJordan

Sapporo said:

Sapporo said:

When the polar bear catches the fish, he does not ask himself whether he is the purpose of life, or whether its purpose is the mere act of creation of his kind. Nonetheless, life creates itself in its image.

I don't detect the relevance of your remark above.

See Wikipedia/Teleonomy.

Mon, 02/19/2018 - 23:41

#219

TheBlindWatchmaker

You should add that quote to

You should add that quote to the bottom of your hypothesis.

Tue, 02/20/2018 - 12:14

#220

ProgrammingGodJordan

You should add that quote to

The BlindWatchmaker said:

You should add that quote to the bottom of your hypothesis

That teleonomy reference had been there for quite some time now.

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