Hello all!
I'm new to this website and I actually joined because I am doing a project for school based on any faith of my choosing and I have to gain information of the faith of my choosing, in which I chose to focus on Atheism since the others have no interest to me because personally I practica Wicca. So if there are any volunteers who are up for interviews and such when discussing this topic, I would REALLY appreciate it! We could swap emails or discuss it openly on here! I'm writing a paper on this so the more information I can receive the better. I don't know much about the religion, but this is exactly why I choose to focus on it!
Thanks a lot,
Meganmarie!
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@ Meganmarie
"gain information of the faith of my choosing, in which I chose to focus on Atheism"
Atheism is not a faith or belief. It is the absence of faith or belief in god or gods.
"I don't know much about the religion, but this is exactly why I choose to focus on it!"
See above. Atheism is the antithesis of religion.
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by CyberLN» Tue, 07/25/2017 - 21:24"
Now after that somewhat shaky start, what do you want to know?
Atheism is not a faith. Much like fucking and virginity! You either are or not!
Oh, lordie..... Not another one.... *face palm*..... *groan*....
@Meganmarie
Bullshit! Do you know how many believers come here pretending to do a "project" for "school" and are just lying their ass off? Many and I suspect YOU are just one more.
Atheism is NOT a believe so if you are supposed to choose a belief you just fucked up!
You're not writing a paper. You want a platform to proselytize.
Wicca is nonsense even as religions go. It is an excuse to smoke pot and get high. Crystals, witches brew, spells incantations, mumbo-jumbo bullshit!
Almost nobody has lied about that. Cynicism describes the inclination to believe other's are motivated by self-interest, and in this case, believing other's are just trying to convert you.
You can cram your amateur psychoanalysis where the sun don't shine Brezzy.
You have been here long enough to know the pattern, the same old bullshit.
"Hi, I'm new here. I am doing a study/paper/project for my college class. I need to get information about the BELIEF of atheism. If you would please do a quick survey I would appreciate any help you can give me."
They aren't in any college class.
The survey is a push poll.
They aren't doing a project of any kind.
And no I don't think that they are trying to convert me or anyone else. They just want a platform to proselytize AND to annoy atheists.
They don't respond to questions. Eventually, they just start quoting the bible and random unrelated passages at that.
And "Wicca"? Wicca has been an excuse for hippie wannabes to get high and get laid for over 50 years now. It isn't even real in the religious world.
So don't hand me you sanctimonious amateur psychobabble Breezy!
"They aren't in any college class. The survey is a push poll. They aren't doing a project of any kind. And no I don't think that they are trying to convert me or anyone else. They just want a platform to proselytize AND to annoy atheists."
Great, but where's your evidence?
I have to agree with you on this one, John.
If one was to say, “It seems like...” or “I’m guessing that...” or “I would bet that...” it would work without the onus to provide evidence. However, when a definitive statement is made, an assertion, then asking for evidence of those claims is, IMO, legitimate.
Oh, Bullshit CyberLN!
You know how many lying assholes that have claimed to be doing a "project" have come here and all they wanted was a platform to proselytize! And John knows it as well but he is just trying to be the malcontent that he really is.
You REALLY think a self-claimed Wiccan is going to college and taking a religious course and has to write a paper about atheists over SPRING BREAK?! How fucking naive can you be? And she doesn't know a damn thing about atheism in the first place. So no background research? How many classes in college did you take where you had to write a paper with NO FUCKING RESEARCH?!
Fucking BUllshit!
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"Great, but where's your evidence?"
She started just as all the others do with a lie, defining atheism as a belief. It's a very well worn act we've seen many times now. Is it really credible someone would be doing a college project on atheism, but not know what the word means? Then conveniently and dishonestly offer a false definition that we have seen proselytising theists use again and again in exactly this fashion with the pretence that they're doing research or a college project on atheism.
I'm dubious...
Atheism is a position on a single issue. "Do you believe in a God." If you say "Yes," you are a theist. If you say "No" you are an "Atheist." There is no faith and no belief in atheism.
What does it mean to "Not believe in a God?" This is where most people get confused and why you may be confused about atheism as well. Atheism is NOT "belief that a god does not exist. "
Look at it this way. There is a large jar full of jelly beans. You tell me that the number of beans in the jar is even. I tell you that I do not believe you. You have not counted the beans. I see no way at all that you could know such information. I just do not believe you. AT NO TIME did I suggest that the number of beans in the jar were ODD.
Atheism is a neutral position on the existence of god. It is the starting point from where people choose to believe in a god. It is also a starting point where people choose to believe Gods do not exist. (Anti-theism)
To the atheist, there just isn't enough evidence to prove that the number of beans in the jar is even.
Christians who assert that God or Gods are real, have not met their burden of proof. (Neither have the Wiccans - FYI)
Cognostic,
"Atheism is a position on a single issue. "Do you believe in a God." If you say "Yes," you are a theist. If you say "No" you are an "Atheist." There is no faith and no belief in atheism."
The problem has been throughout history that simply believing in a god isn't good enough for theists. People have to believe in a certain specific deity or else the more powerful group will slit their throats. So when people don't believe in the primary deity in the area they are just heathen atheists.
Hell, in some cases people can believe in the same God and the same holy book and still be considered heathen atheists. That was the case with the French Catholics and French Protestants. The Protestants had a slightly different ritual and doctrine but the Catholics called them atheists and spent years trying to kill all of them.
The next time someone asks you if you believe in God tell them that you worship the God that lives in the pimple on your butt. The person will look at you like your're nuts. But you are expected to believe him when he says that he talks to his God all the time. They want you to believe in their delusions but they call everyone else's nuts.
@meganmarie
If you are sincere and truly are here to find out more about atheism and do a paper - there are some really great books you can read in Kindle or at any book store that can give you great reference resources and fully explained, articulated answers to almost any of your questions.
Like the others here have stated, atheism is not a religion. Atheism is also not anti-theism (look it up). To qualify as an atheist one only has to agree to a basic premise:
Do you believe there is a god, gods or God? Yes or No
Funny, even a maybe is essentially a "no" so agnostics or humanists or hedonists or Buddhists or anyone who says they don't know if there is a god or not is really saying "no" and is really an atheist by definition.
One of the biggest problems people have with atheism or it's many watered down iterations (like free-thinkers) is that history associates atheism with people like Hitler (who was a Catholic, actually) and the books religion is based upon state that non-believers are essentially dead. Being stoned to death or burned at the stake because you do not conform to a belief or because you don't have one at all is scary in the world we live in (less so today than in the past).
Wicca is fun - I'd like to think that magic exists (it does not) - still love my sci-fi movies and books also, but that is because I have an imagination, not because there is any evidence any of it is real. Growing up involves evolving and evolution requires exposure. If you only eat one flavor of jelly bean your entire life you'll believe its the best flavor - that does not mean there are no others or that none are better, it only means you haven't been exposed to enough flavors yet to make a true personal determination.
God is not religion. However, if there is no supernatural entity or entities or ethers or spirits or magic or anything - that pretty much eliminates all religions based on those machinations, right? So, no god essentially means most or all religions are wrong - not a popular position in a world steeped in its superstitions.
Anyway, if you are sincere - pardon the anger and defensive posture of some here - apparently, the agenda of many who come here is anything but sincere or true and it's caused a great deal of issue.
If you are interested in any of this - it's time to stop being ignorant of the issues and study. Yep, study, learn, research... none of which is a shortcut, all of which is highly valuable in anything you are interested in, truly, in your life and as you grow up.
Be a student of life, not a follower of others - in the end, you'll be able to face yourself knowing you did your own homework.
DB, you wrote, “Be a student of life, not a follower of others - in the end, you'll be able to face yourself knowing you did your own homework.”
Lovely.
She's not saying atheism is faith-based, nor a religion. Obviously her assignment is asking her to pick something like Buddhism and Hinduism to learn about, and she chose Atheism for the reasons she cited.
I don't understand the purpose of being defensive and unfriendly to newcomers.
Shes ignorant or purposely offensive! Atheism in no way shape or form is a belief system.
" I am doing a project for school based on any faith of my choosing and I have to gain information of the faith of my choosing, in which I chose to focus on Atheism..." That is a clear assumption that atheism is a faith. So you stand corrected...AGAIN!
John 6IX Breezy "She's not saying atheism is faith-based, nor a religion."
Do behave, that is precisely what she said, here's her opening post , and I've enclosed the claims in asterisks for you, since you're struggling. If she's genuine then how is it not helpful to point out she's about to right a paper on something she is defining incorrectly? One assumes she wants the paper to be correct?
Fri, 03/23/2018 - 16:45
meganmarie "...I am doing a project for school based on any ***faith of my choosing...I chose to focus on ***Atheism since the others have no interest to me .....So if there are any volunteers who are up for interviews and such when discussing this topic, I would REALLY appreciate it! ....I don't know much about the ***religion, but this is exactly why I choose to focus on it!
I can never tell if you're being deliberately obtuse or not?
I've conducted an Interview of an Atheist (with old man shouts at clouds) but my fucking college rejected to publish it in college magazine they said it can hurt peoples feelings. so the fucking thing is that even college's and universities are not interested in rational, secular and logical things they want to show students that atheists are dangerous creatures. And that day I learned that religious intellectuals are also assholes .
@MeganMarie: I'm new to this website and I actually joined because I am doing a project for school based on any faith of my choosing and I have to gain information of the faith of my choosing, in which I chose to focus on Atheism since the others have no interest to me because personally I practica Wicca.
Based on the name you've used, I'm assuming you're a native speaker of English. So I'm going to give you some advice about communication. Before you attempt to write an essay about atheism, you first need to look at your English composition skills. You might produce a brilliant piece of scholarship, but it will mean nothing if nobody can understand your writing. In your first sentence you've strung together several major clauses linked by "and" without even commas between them. I'm still trying to figure out the antecedent of "in which". I would have written it something like this.
I'm new to this website. I joined because I'm doing a project for school about any faith of my choosing. I chose to focus on atheism, since other faiths have no interest to me because I practice Wicca.
Whatever field you work in, you'll need to be able to write clearly. When you write a sentence, try to think about the person who will read it. If you're interested in Wicca, you should know that spelling and grammar are very important. Why do you think we call incantations "spells". Do you know the connection between grammar and grimoire?
So you're going to write a paper about atheism. Don't you think you should have done a little background research yourself before coming here to ask questions? How will you know what questions to ask if you're totally ignorant about the field? Atheism isn't a faith. It's the absence of faith. Atheism is nothing like Wicca.
meganmarie,
"I don't know much about the religion, but this is exactly why I choose to focus on it!"
"Wicca (English: /ˈwɪkə/), also termed Pagan Witchcraft, is a contemporary Pagan new religious movement. It was developed in England during the first half of the 20th century and was introduced to the public in 1954 by Gerald Gardner, a retired British civil servant. Wicca draws upon a diverse set of ancient pagan and 20th-century hermetic motifs for its theological structure and ritual practices."
"Wicca has no central authority. Its traditional core beliefs, principles and practices were originally outlined in the 1940s and 1950s by Gardner and Doreen Valiente, both in published books as well as in secret written and oral teachings passed along to their initiates. There are many variations on the core structure, and the religion grows and evolves over time. It is divided into a number of diverse lineages, sects and denominations, referred to as traditions, each with its own organizational structure and level of centralisation. Due to its decentralized nature, there is some disagreement over what actually constitutes Wicca. Some traditions, collectively referred to as British Traditional Wicca, strictly follow the initiatory lineage of Gardner and consider the term Wicca to apply only to similar traditions, but not to newer, eclectic traditions."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicca
So Wicca is just a bull shit religion cooked up by a lunatic. It just shows that nitwits will believe anything.
Unlike some people on this forum I simply don't care if Yahweh or Yeshua or any of the other thousands of gods exist. http://www.graveyardofthegods.org/deadgods/listofgods.html
What has the Moon Goddess and the Horned God done for you lately? Maybe you should interview some atheist wiccans?
Hi meganmarie,
A good start to your project would be to look atheism up in the dictionary, as it is not a faith, and it isn't a religion either. It is the lack or absence of one single belief. You'll be wanting to get that right before you proceed.
Atheism
noun
disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.
Personally I'd not start a school project on something I couldn't even define in it's broadest dictionary definition.
Hello all!
I'm doing a kindergarten postgraduate thesis essay project on the motivations of single-post drive-by loons who want help with school projects about the religion of atheism. Please feel free to share your views.
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another project??
i just really don't trust these kind of project-for-school reason thing...
comes and go..
relentless...