Invariably we atheist come across theist that either want to debate issues or just proselytize. They have a problem though, that of evidence. Most theist rely on the bible as their only source of evidence and as evidence it isn't a good source, reliable or factual. Evidence in a court of law or in a scientific experiment/observation, cannot be used unless there is independent evidence. And evidence is not valid if it is self evidentiary. Example. I say that I am a god, and I give as evidence that I am the source. Not valid. When theist reference the bible they are failing in two ways, maybe more in providing evidence. The bible is self evidentiary or self proclaimed. 2) there is no independent supporting evidence or corroboration. 3) The bible they use is edited and corrupted and not good evidence. 4) The bible they use sites hearsay evidence not direct corroborated testimony.
I contend that theist cannot make valid claims as they have no supporting evidence to do so. They can believe what they want, but if they want to profess that belief they must by all accounts provide VALID evidence well corroborated and supported. They can't simple say for example that there were 500 witnesses to the resurrection of jesus.
1) The oldest bible says that only a few women went to the tomb and found it empty. Gospel of Mark Codex.
2) Only the bible is the source of this alleged event and it is invalid because it is self evidentiary.
Now I know I am preaching to the choir so to speak, but recently we had a thread started by a theist that professed to tell what we as atheist/agnostics do not know. Daniel used as evidence an invalid source, quotes from a modern bible. Those quotes weren't even accounts but rather dictatorial statements. I am always appalled by the arrogance of theist and their suppose evidence. I would LOVE to seem them tried for a high crime where by the prosecutor used the same invalid evidentiary method. They would scream to high heaven about it's lack of validity.
And here's the real rub. Since they made up their god the onus is upon them to prove their god. Everyone is BORN an atheist. You have to be brainwashed in some form to become a theist.