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When did I say I am trying to prove anything?
Zero: Show me one thing about any god that is outside of the universal laws we live under. Your explanation requires words, ideas, a method of communication. Nothing you are saying demonstrates anything outside our known reality. All you said was"outside of the universal laws we live in". Am I supposed to be impressed. Can you even describe anything outside of our known reality?
lol easy, if time or matter worked 100 times faster or stronger, if gravity was 1000 times stronger, a universe of all air, a universe of all water or gas the list can go on!
What? What does "if time worked 100 times stronger" mean? Any more gibberish and I am going to ignore you. Life is too short!
"if time worked 100 times stronger"
means that time can work differently than it does in this universe like faster,slower, or stronger is that not easy to understand?
Zero: If time was "stronger"? How is that evidence for a god outside our physical laws? You are imagining another set of physical laws . That is all. You are using your imagination in this world imagining another world that does not exist. That does not require a god.
"Can you even describe anything outside of our known reality?"
Silly chimp you asked me to at least describe anything outside of our known reality I gave you an example and you try to tie that into my point about how I said god is claimed to work outside of our universal laws I never said that I have proof or evidence for that claim or even if I believed it myself in this forum all I did was make a statement and you came up with your own goofy assumptions.
@ZERO: No, you don't. You're attempting to use black hole physics, or event horizon physics, to say that god exists... physical laws that, of course, exist in our reality, gods, or god don't exists, but black holes yes, exist. I'm sorry lol.
Try again.
I dont know whats wrong with you guys but what I am explaining is not saying god exist!I am asking questions and all I get is that what I am explaining is no proof for god or no evidence for god that is not my motive, but tells me how bias you guys are on this topic. you cant even have a conversation without yelling out god doesn't exist there is no proof and all that non sense.I am tired of having the same old debate about the universe so when I do have conversation about religion, science or spirituality I try and go deeper then whats on the surface. I wish you guys stop saying this is no proof of god or I am trying to prove god exist because I am not but It seems like I am beating a dead horse
@ZERO: Yes, it's fucked when anybody see you the aces up your sleeve, but you don't make me the offended, it's not credible. First you say that you don't want to prove that God exists, but then you say that your diatribe is about religion, science and spirituality. Clarify.
And it's not my fault you use the science of fucking pity, read a book.
This thread is not about proving religion,science and spirituality but to simply ask questions is that something I can not do?
@ZERO: Yes, of course, but when you ask a question and you answer to yourself... wait... Isn't that what a fucking preacher does? hmmm It sounds to me, yes ¬¬)-♫
P.S.
And I don't want to gloat that I've not pointed out your absolute ignorance about physics (lalala)
@chimp3: He's attempting to use black hole physics, or event horizon physics, to say that god exists. Summarizing, he's heard bells in some documentary and doesn't know where.
P.S.
I really admire the patience you have with this people ¬¬)-♫
What rate does your universe run at? 1 sec/sec I'm guessing? See how stupid this is now?
I see how limited your thought process is, time cant go backwards inside the rules we live in. So what if there was a place were inside a different set of rules that was possible its very simple you are making it seem far fetched the concept of a multiverse is well respected inside the scientific community, which this specific point is based off the concept of a multiverse.
Think about it for a minute. If time ran slower, faster, or even backwards; how would you know?
@ZERO: hmmm no. There're many hypotheses about the multiuniverse In theoretical physics, and, in fact, you try to use two different hypotheses about, mixing them, which already gives the size of your "scientific" argumentation, that doesn't arrive at metaphysics and, incredibly, DC Comics isn't even used.
Oh, and speaking of the great respect in the scientific community... In 2013 scientists Laura Mersini-Houghton and Richard Holman claimed to have discovered, through the Planck telescope, possible evidence that there are other universes outside our own, but one hundred and seventy-five scientists threw it by ashore signing an article demonstrating that no bulk flow had been detected, one of the foundations of Mersini-Houghton and Holman's theory and that the claim of Laura Mersini-Houghton and Richard Holman was pure buffalo crap.
No, the concept of multiverse is only well respected inside the writers' room of DC Comics. Although, I repeat, in theoretical physics there're as many hypotheses about multiverse as theoretical physicists exist.
Try again.
this tread was not to prove the concept of a fucking multiverse I made a statement which is my opinion and I know a large number of people would agree that the multiverse is a scientific concept and is well respected.
@ZERO: But you used the concept to answer @Nyarlathotep, and, apart from using it badly, now you want to give it as respected. Well, Where? I mean, outside DC Comics, Where?
Now, between you and me, confidentially... I have a big problem with charlatans and demagogues that try to use the supposed ignorance of those around them to thrive. I understand that it isn't only their fault, knowledge and science are available to everyone, but when it's obvious that someone uses it to take advantage of others... it pisses me off.
What's your opinion about it? ¬¬)-♫
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2016/08/the-multiverse-as-im...
Ive never heard of a multiverse. This article is interesting :)
Yes, if the laws of the universe were different, we would not exist. Agreed. And your point is what? Is it perhaps we are ''lucky'' to have evolved on this planet. If so, what is your point?
The concept I am explaining does not mean we wouldn't exits. this universe along with a infinite number of other universes would co exist with different universes being structured similarly and also completely differently in there laws are rules.The laws of this universe is weird and I believe the are more of them out there with different weird laws
It sounds like the god of the gaps to me.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_of_the_gaps
I am not saying gaps in science is evidence for god.For me god can be replaced with a stronger type of energy or a super universe.
@ZERO: ooooooooooooh We are talking about a new god!!! How exciting and original!!! And will there be group sex, orgies and so to do praises to the new god, or are we going to stay at the Latin Mass?
There are people who never learn ¬¬)-♫
the word god is subjective it could mean many things and for me it very well does!
@ZERO: And for a Taliban too, that doesn't make you special, it makes you the same thing.
for me god can mean energy I do not think that is the religious concept of god that is why I say its subjective.
@ZERO: Just so we can understand each other, when you say "for me god can mean (...)" you presuppose a religious concept, not the rest of the world, not, you. CLARIFY.
P.S.
CLARIFY!
I am not about to debate you on if the word god is subjective that is so lame if we cant agree on that its no point in going forward its a stalemate red vs blue.
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