Muslim theologians Proof of god's Existence

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Muslim theologians Proof of god's Existence

I stumbled upon some books about muslim theology (ilm al-kalam) & Philosophy, but in arabic, since i am from an arab country, so i am not that good at english, but i wanted to share this argument with you and know what you think about it.

it is an argument for god's existence and his traits, and it goes something like this:

1- There's no doubt that things around us exist. and every single object has an essence that delineates its way of existence.
2- If something has an essence precludes its existence then it's an IMPOSSIBLE case for it to exist like a round square.
3- If something has an essence which in itself is neutral with respect to existence then it's a CONTINGENT being, like things around us (the universe, in general), They might exist or not exist.
4- Since Their essences do not guarantee/necessitate existence nor preclude it
5- Since a Preponderance of one side of a contingent thing can not happen without a preponderator
6- so there must be a Cause i.e. a preponderator, that intervened to preponderate their existence over non-existence
7- That Cause, if it's CONTINGENT, then the same reasoning goes for it, until we reach a point that there is an uncaused cause since The infinite regress is IMPOSSIBLE. and that is a NECESSARY being

8- now, that being either it affects by nature/by necessity/by obligation OR it affects by choice, The former is FALSE, otherwise it would entail that either the universe is eternal OR the necessary being is an accident i.e. came into existence. and both conclusions are FALSE. so it's true that it affects by choice

"The former is FALSE otherwise it would entail that either the universe is eternal OR the necessary being is an accident i.e. came into existence"

One might say how is that true

For the fact that the cause that affects by nature/necessity guarantees/necessitates its effect i.e. they're conjugated, if the latter is accidental then its cause is also accidental, if the cause is eternal then its effect is also eternal

9- Since it can choose whether to do or not to do, so that being has a will and is powerfull
10- Since we see the perfection and the fine-tuning in its effect, so it is knowing and wise
11- therefore it must be living/alive/conscious

that's the best i could do with interpreting the Argument and i'd like to aplogize if it seems a bit vague for my poor skills in english

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Nyarlathotep's picture
OP argument - 4- Since Their
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a contingent being,
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Peripatetic - How is that non
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well it means the same thing,
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Peripatetic - i do not see
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How does this prove any god
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From what I read around jut
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The kalam cosmological
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5. An infinite regression is
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Yes, I'd like to see the
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because eventually, the whole
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All you did was make another
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why don't you just say "i don
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The atheist demand, "If God
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Add #10. And we call this
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i did not say that was ever
xenoview's picture
There is no proof of a god
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well, i just wrote a proof of
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What proof have you given
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Why are you calling the
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in arabic, we replace every
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I wonder from where notions
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If it is possible or
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there can not be more than
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Peripatetic - 3- one of the
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a sign of misery over there.
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Peripatetic - Are u saying
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No. they are the only 3
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Peripatetic - the same goes
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it's the same concept u just

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