If one looks closely at the numerous early stories of Mohammed's life there is a strand of opinion that implies that he "lost control" of his movement ... his military leaders browbeat him into agreeing to their wishes. He was compelled to agree with their desire to have all the males of a Jewish tribe executed ... and was made to watch it happen, etc. His death was alleged to have been the result of being poisoned. 80 years after his death contemporary writers were complaining about the numerous fictitious stories circulating about his life ... mainly being put about by members of his tribe.
There is archeological evidence that points to the fact that significant parts of the Koran were written in the 8th century, 100 years or more after Mohammed's death.
Some parts of the Koran are politicised versions of older, non-Islamic texts. Especially where punishments are described. The original texts were much more benign ... less violent.
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Mohammed had lice so he was basically a weak man.
But he drank Camel Urine and grew strong. There are more benefits than you can imagine from the ingestion of fresh from the beast camel urine. If it is good enough for Muhammad it is good enough for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-F4yjuWCfs
Cognostic,
"But he drank Camel Urine and grew strong."
The story is that he had some other guys drink a camel piss and camel milk cocktail. There is no story that says that he did it himself.
Bukhari hadith 76 =
Narrated Anas:
"The climate of Medina did not suit some people, so the Prophet (ﷺ) ordered them to follow his shepherd, i.e. his camels, and drink their milk and urine (as a medicine). So they followed the shepherd that is the camels and drank their milk and urine till their bodies became healthy. Then they killed the shepherd and drove away the camels. When the news reached the Prophet (ﷺ) he sent some people in their pursuit. When they were brought, he cut their hands and feet and their eyes were branded with heated pieces of iron."
Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 5686
In-book reference : Book 76, Hadith 9
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 7, Book 71, Hadith 590
(deprecated numbering scheme)
https://sunnah.com/bukhari/76
https://www.faithfreedom.org/comics/15.htm
https://www.faithfreedom.org/comics/14.htm
Yes... aware of this. Even mentions it in the video link.
LMAO! A green sustainable all natural chemotherapy treatment. Can't be worse than Dr. Pepper.
them's fightin words! I'm not big on religious violence; soda wars is what we should be killing each other over! :)
Nyarlathotep: I'm with you. Knock Dr. Pepper and you knock me. I'm ready to go off. Say something else Parrot boy.
I've had cough medicine that tasted better and didn't make me burp..
Bring. It. On.
Oh Oh Oh... Comparing Dr, Pepper to cough medicine. Blasphemer. May the spirits of the good Dr. forever curse you, May your feathers molt, bald patches appear on your head and a mite infestation attack your armpits and groin. I curse you, you heathen bird.
BE A MAN, DRINK DR PEPPER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8gyw0DgcUw
How can you not love Dr Pepper after that?
Down under we have a popular local brew by the startling name of Tarax. It too comes in 24 flavours including Vegemite. Pure ambrosia...or was it kangaroo pee?
Check this out: Downunder Ambrosia
Just mind the kangaroos.
I was waiting for the kangaroo to give the girl a front kick. I've watched the Dr. Pepper commercials 3 more times and I have come to the conclusion that I can no longer associate myself with such a drink regardless of the taste. If I ever drink Dr. Pepper again it will be in secret.
I kind of have to agree with Grinseed. Partially. When Dr. Pepper sold out to Coca-Cola to bottle their drink, Dr. Pepper became nasty. When Pepsi-Cola was bottling Dr. Pepper, it was fabulous. That is why I no longer drink anything made by Coca-Cola Bottling Corporation unless I do not even have any water to drink.
Hell, I'd almost drink Camel Urine instead of something made by Coca-Cola.
How is that for some fighting words?
rmfr
Hah! Everybody KNOWS that Canada Dry Ginger Ale is the only TRUE cool refreshing soda! It's not too sweet! A taste that can't be beat!
HA! Canada Dry Ginger Ale: Brought to you by the same country that invented "Clamato Juice." Clam piss mixed with tomato flavoring that rotted and turned brown on the shelves of American stores while the Canadians lapped it up like anteaters in anteater heaven. Never trust anything with the word "Canadian" on it. (Except for beer.)
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I quit all soda drinks as a new years resolution, (I know I know! Still it is a good starting point as any!) Still going strong. All soda's are nothing but unhealthy. My steadily expanding waistline of the last 5 years or so means I needed to do more to preserve my health.
Oh and yeah, duh, muhammad is not all powerful, nor is any god, the concept is silly made up idea by humans, and held to a strict human word definition, "all powerful" is an impossible human made concept to actually realize even by a so called god concept (or prophet.)
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Is there actually any good evidence that the founder of Islam was born with the name "Mohammed" (essentially a title meaning praiseworthy one)? Did he even exist?
Sapporo,
"Is there actually any good evidence that the founder of Islam was born with the name "Mohammed" (essentially a title meaning praiseworthy one)? Did he even exist?"
No outside observer ever saw "Mohammed". The Christian fairy tale has the Roman Pilate as the sole outside observer to have ever seen the Jesus character.
Mohammed and Jesus are like unicorns and talking donkeys. They are talked about but never seen.
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From what I have read evidence is sparse. There are wars with general's called Muhammad but apparently the armies were not Muslim and there were stories of Muhammad but attaching them to someone who wrote the Qua'aran is nearly impossible. Muhammad did not write it. Historically, Muhammad the Messenger of God does not make an appearance in writing until about 690. IN SHORT - The debate rages on... Muhammad may be an amalgamation of many stories that were occurring prior to the institution of Islam.
The accounts of Muhammad are spurious at best.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB122669909279629451
I'm with you guys on the coca cola bottling, it's not very nice at all... quite like cherry coke on the odd occasion I have a soda.
As for Muhammed (misery be upon him), he was nothing more then a war lord who forced an ideology upon his vanquished foes.
A bit of an arsehole I would say!
But the stories of him and jesus never impressed me... I mean feeding thousands with bread and water... if we found an ancient document stating he fed the masses with a bucket of chicken and had scrawled KFC on it, I'd be impressed!
Muhammed flying on a winged horse, if hes so special why not fly himself?! If he grew actual wings like Falcon in avengers, that would be cool... or a hover board with Muhammed mcfly on it, we'd all be impressed!
Or how about jesus resurrected wasnt seen by the Roman's after crucifixion because he could cloak like the fucking Predator!
And we eventually find his tomb with a trophy cabinet of gleaming Roman soldiers skulls!!!
As it stands, the stories are boring.
Randomhero1982,
"But the stories of him and jesus never impressed me... I mean feeding thousands with bread and water... if we found an ancient document stating he fed the masses with a bucket of chicken and had scrawled KFC on it, I'd be impressed!"
The two stories about feeding the thousands with a few fish and a couple of loaves of bread are actually very complex and represent several themes.
Do you really think all of those people went out into the countryside without any food? Just like Jesus and his posse they had some snacks under their smelly dusty robes. The problem was that if they had revealed their stash they would have had to offer it to others because of the rules of hospitality. Jesus broke the ice by having his guys walk out into the crowdoffering what they had. The people then felt foolish and produced their own food. They all had more than enough to feed everyone but they didn't know that until they came together as a group instead of being selfish individuals. It is sort of like socialism in action.
The stories also represents the sentence in the 4th Commandment (Exodus 34:20) which says that none shall appear before Me (God) empty-handed. So the stories also present Jesus as God.
In addition the stories are related to several other passages throughout the Bible which involve feeding the sheep (the believers, not the four-legged animals). In John 21:15-18 (ERV) Jesus tasks Peter with "feeding the sheep" =
"15 When they finished eating, Jesus said to Simon Peter, “Simon, son of John, do you love me more than these other men love me?”
Peter answered, “Yes, Lord, you know that I love you.”
Then Jesus said to him, “Take care of my lambs.[a]”
16 Again Jesus said to him, “Simon, son of John, do you love me?”
Peter answered, “Yes, Lord, you know that I love you.”
Then Jesus said, “Take care of my sheep.”
17 A third time Jesus said, “Simon, son of John, do you love me?”
Peter was sad because Jesus asked him three times, “Do you love me?” He said, “Lord, you know everything. You know that I love you!”
Jesus said to him, “Take care of my sheep. 18 The truth is, when you were young, you tied your own belt and went where you wanted. But when you are old, you will put out your hands, and someone else will tie your belt. They will lead you where you don’t want to go.”
i didn't believe in God, but then Cherry Coke Zero. (hey, it's as logical as SETI, therefore God).
Ha, foreign pussies. IRN BRU IS THE ONLY TRUE SODA. My local supermarket imports it from Scotland where it outsells coke by a hefty margin...I don't drink soda as it disagrees with my shiraz intake....
OLD MAN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uaf6AHn-5H0