http://www.bluedotdaily.com/democratic-coalition-paper-trail-implicates-...
Mike Pence's hatred towards LGBTQ community and fight against planned parenthood concerns me more than Trumps stupidity. But this article gave me hope that he might not take over once 45 is impeached. This would be pretty wonderful:) Do christians still support pence after all his hypocrisy?
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"Do christians still support pence after all his hypocrisy?"
Absolutely yes. I know my mom will. Every single issue voter (abortion) will continue their love affair with Mike Pence. Unless they find out he's gay or something anyway.
Of course. My folks too. Abortion and gays are our two most critical issues right now in the states. :) lol
Pence is archaic's example of old, stodgy and completely out of touch.
While the notion of some guy wanting to swap body fluids with another guy doesn't quite assemble itself into my puzzle of life's wholesomeness, neither I nor Mr. Pence have privilege to impose opinion on the matters of same-sex preferences, and that's exactly what he's doing. Imposing opinion on someone is bullying and it's rampant amongst people whose birth right to freedom of expression has not come with instructions for proper use. Liberals are probably the best and the worst at it but at least they're clearly not bashful about expressing wisdom and witlessness, respectively. Their conduct gives courage to even the shyest of us to speak our minds, small as they often are (Mr. Pence).
Anyway, on the topic of birth control - aka Planned Parenthood - even god kills babies to punish wayward parents so Mr. Pence needs to regroup and have a talk with his maker before he errantly takes him on.
Oh yeah, the hypocrisy theist have towards abortion is extreme. They found their witch, in the witch hunt they have, (planned parenthood,) and refuse to listen to any reasoning, because it is "murder of a completely innocent baby."
One of the more chilling/awful examples, out of a long list of hypocrisy and out right lies these pro-lifers have is:
-What happens when there is no abortion clinics/facilities. There are sadly many countries in the world where abortion is outlawed in all forms, and these "pro lifers" refuse to study these locations and the results of a blanket ban on abortion. The very thing they fear most occurs, late, third term abortions done on the black market, where the horrifying procedures the clueless "pro lifers' drone on and on about, that never actually occurs in a clinic, actually happens. With often fatal, or very long term life scarring consequences for the mother as well.
To me, no abortion ties in very neatly to many theist religion origins based on women being property to the male that claims/marries her and women in general being 2nd class citizens. Why many women still go ascribe to these ancient religions based on such principles still amazes me.
Kind of like women that voted for Trump. I feel if it came out during the campaign a video that Trump "likes to grab been by the balls" and he can get away with because he is rich and famous, he would of lost 90+ percent of the male vote instantly.
Eh, I am getting way off topic, I apologize.
LogicForTW
Thats so true if it were male sexual assault men would have bailed on trump. . but woman are the lesser sex and they are used to this treatment and aspire to submissiveness. Fortunately Some of the woman power commercials coming out are outstanding. Its nice to see the female voice be strong again:)
The whole Russian thing is going to bite Trump and Pence in the ass.
So if Pence and Trump get the boot do we get to do another election?
I have no idea, as far as I know, it has never happened before. It could be that the secretary of state is next in line in succession, and will hold executive powers until an emergency election occurs, but speeding up and by passing the entire year long process of major party representatives, and setting up a nation wide vote is not a quick process. If Trump/Pence got impeached, I think the best we could hope for is a presidential election during the interim elections that are scheduled to happen November of 2019. Mean while everything would be in absolute chaos. (It already is, but it could somehow get worse.
Unfortunately I do not think trump will be impeached anytime soon, it would require a "smoking gun" in terms of evidence, and it will be pretty easy for trump/Republican party to suppress that sort of evidence. If it was going to happen, I feel it would happened by now, also the goal post for impeachable offense has been greatly moved when the electorate voted trump in. All of politics learned a powerful lesson with trump, you can get away with an awful lot, as long as you have a base and you tell them what they want to hear.
It also seems the Republican party now has trump exactly where they want him, the republican majority in general is getting what they really want, but trump is not. (At least in terms of what he promised his voters.)
JamieB,
Paul Ryan would become President and he would appoint a V.P. The election would be held in 2020 as scheduled.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_line_of_succession
In that case he could appoint a new cabinet. The House would select a new Speaker who would then become third in line to replace Ryan.
In event all of the others on the list bite the dust then the surviving person on the list becomes President and the system reboots. For instance, the Secretary of Homeland Security is the last on the list so if everyone above him bit the dust at the same time he would become President, appoint a V.P., select a new cabinet and the House would elect a new Speaker, rebooting the entire system. The new speaker would then become third in line just like before.
Rex Tillerson is sec of state and Putins buddy so we all good:)
"The very thing they fear most occurs, late, third term abortions done on the black market, where the horrifying procedures the clueless "pro lifers' drone on and on about, that never actually occurs in a clinic, actually happens. With often fatal, or very long term life scarring consequences for the mother as well."
@LogicForTW
What also troubles me about this is and underlying tone of "well that's what they deserve for killing the life inside them".
If people think that Flynn lied to Pence they are delusional. Trump is so deep in the Russin ass it isn't even funny. The sad thing is that repukes won't do the right thing for THIS nation! they just keep apologizing for Trump and his criminal cronies. They lie about Hillary even though after being the most investigated person in world history (over 30 years of endless false charges0 they haven't found a shred of evidence against her. Yet, these paragons of virtue fail to even investigate their own over clear acts of TREASON!
They have proven that if you are a conservaturd, a libertarian, a tea party fuck, a reform party asshole, a repuke, you are anti-American to the highest degree.
I have tried hard to find just one with integrity and or honesty. Not one in my vast experience even comes close. I know that there are bad Liberals and Democrats, but they aren't even close to the number from the "right side of the aisle." The right side are all sell outs to corrupt corporate criminals.
mykcob4 said:
I agree fully, I also think the Democrats are mostly the same way, just not as quite as bad. They at least try to have the pretense that they are decent. Definitely a lesser of two evils argument for me. I think Obama was actually one of the best presidents we had in awhile, but I also have a long list of grievances against him.
@Logic.
I totally agree. I understand what you said about Obama, but he had to be president to everyone. He moved to slow for me, but in reality, he accomplished 98% of what he promised in some manner or another.
"I understand what you said about Obama, but he had to be president to everyone. He moved to slow for me, but in reality, he accomplished 98% of what he promised in some manner or another."
I had an especially frustrating conversation with my evangelical mother over Easter. Her beef with Obama beyond the abortion issue was his insistence on "riling up the blacks". My response of course was, "well he didn't seem to rile up your biracial grandchildren".
Woah, no offense to you or your mother, but your mom is a special kind.
I again want to point out how impressed I am that you turned out the way you did.
Thanks. The funny thing is that she would be horribly offended if someone accused her of being racist. I try to find more delicate ways of addressing her statements. It's fucking maddening.
JB God's Country
Is your mom a Fox News gal like my mom? Also, on Facebook she follows some weirdos. She came at me so many times with fake news as they came up. As shed tell me about Hillary' pizza gate scandal, the rapes by refugees in germany, or FBI reopening Hillary's investigation id say that sounds awful. ill go check it out. well all stories she spouted were false because I took the time to look them up and so one day after a long break from politics I told her all her stories were false. it didn't matter though because pence was in office and he was a godly man. Okey dokey. I should ask her who she follows on Facebook. .
I am going to go ahead and guess Rush Limbaugh is on that list. Most of the die hard far right supporters that I unfortunately know, think that guy walks on water.
Rush Limbaugh has been a staple in our home for years. He's such an ass. And I hate Alex jones too. I think he's killed people.
I would put nothing beyond Alex Jones, including murder.
It was good to see Bill O'Reilly go down in flames though. Took far too long, but no matter how big the personality they are not immune.
@JamieB
"Is your mom a Fox News gal like my mom?"
I'm not sure. It just seems the only stories that really resonate with her are republican propaganda pieces. I get the impression she gets most of her material from facebook and friends who watch Fox. She still believes Trump won the popular vote! She claims to be an independent but that's a joke. I think a lot of people claim to be independents to give their arguments credibility.