Message to "ex-muslims".

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Message to "ex-muslims".

from a long time , i discovered while i surf in the internet and social media , a lot number of people
who are creating accounts & videos in which they say that they left islam and they are calling themselves
ex-muslims , and frankly talking I have a message for them.

First of all , I think that the majority of those people are still muslims but they just imagine themselves
that they are not , the door of repentance is always opened to them , because as the coran say "the people
who are bored from the mercy of God are only the misguided" : so you are still muslims but don't imagine yourself
that you are not , maybe you are passing a hard period like a period of depression , or hard period , but as
the coran says "say , o my slaves who exagerated on them selves , don't get bored from the mercy of God , God
forgives all sins" , to get from this depression start by getting repenting the door of repentance is always here , no
matter what someone has said or done before.(just regret your sin and commit yourself not to do it again)

I am a muslim and i'll never be an ex muslim, and I love and respect christians , jews , atheists , why ? because islamtaught me that , because it's a religion of peace , but because of some evil people who are using this beautiful
religion for evil purpose it started to have a bad image , I respect also the other religions , each religion
has its charm . I just want to say , to "exmuslims" , that the door of repentance is opened , and If some of
them is having doubts on Islam , I offer them this program on youtube , which is speaking
about how much atheism is raising in the arab world due to social media , and answer people who have doubts in

the religion :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK_PqLo9MHs&list=PL2iYuWPMtef8QmebVtmNU0...

me personally , I can help anyone of you , if he wants to speak or having me as a friend . Do you know what ?
Life is not easy : there are hard periods of doubts , the hard periods are always here , but to success in life , we must be strong enough , we ALL have problems in our life : family problems , job problems,... But no one of those
must make us fail in life , or let us loose hope in life , or let us loose our faith. If we loose or faith we lose our
strength , we loose who we are , because humans are weak , only God who gave us strentgh .

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CyberLN's picture
wideside, are you here to

wideside, are you here to debate?

Tin-Man's picture
Hey, Cyber, looks to me like

Hey, Cyber, looks to me like Wideside is the same yahoo that got banned just a couple of weeks ago.

LogicFTW's picture
This post is very similar to

This post is very similar to another post I saw around 2 week ago.

And I think it is highly unlikely the person is here to debate, but instead trying to reach ex muslims that have obvious doubts about the muslim religion.

CyberLN's picture
Can you give me that poster’s

Can you give me that poster’s name? I’ll review to see if the same person. Thx!

Tin-Man's picture
@Cyber

@Cyber

Ah-ha! Found it! It is the "Deleted" thread from 01/29/19. The yo-yo's name was Lightside.

lightside1's picture
I deleted the message because

I deleted the message because i received insults of my religion But its me again .. now if you want to insult me or insults my religion feel free to do it i won't answer and i will not delete again my posts

lightside1's picture
I deleted the message because

I deleted the message because i received insults of my religion But its me again .. now if you want to insult me or insults my religion feel free to do it i won't answer and i will not delete again my posts

Tin-Man's picture
@Wideside

@Wideside

Hate to burst your bubble, but I do not know you. Therefore, trying to insult you personally would be a ridiculous waste of time. Your religion, on the other hand, is wide open as fair game. So, if you do not wish to see your dear and precious religion shredded into tiny little pieces and used as confetti at a rowdy heathen party, I suggest you turn your head away or find a more "Islamic-friendly" site. Just a suggestion...

CyberLN's picture
Wideside, as this is a debate

Wideside, as this is a debate room, and you’re unwilling to debate, then I will cancel your account.

gupsphoo's picture
@wideside

@wideside

I remember you. You were obviously offended and left.

But saying that your prophet was pedophile who married a 9-year old girl was NOT an insult.

It's in the a Hadith narrated by Aisha herself : Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234:

Narrated Aisha: The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.

watchman's picture
@wideside …

@wideside …

I'll try again.....

"Just a quick question for my own edification ..... is your ethnicity Arab ?"

CyberLN's picture
Wideside and his doppelgänger

Wideside and his doppelgänger have been escorted from the building as he is not here to debate.

David Killens's picture
wideside, as an ordained

wideside, as an ordained minister of the Church of Latter-Day Dude, I will respond to your religion.

Chill, take it easy man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yjg8LL5iUrc

Tin-Man's picture
@David

@David

I just hope Wideside didn't pee on the rug as he left. That rug really ties the room together.

liomem's picture
I'm an ex-muslim from middle

I'm an ex-muslim from middle East , Can we debate ??? .. I can tell you why I get out of Islam , BTW If the person get out of Islam and speaks Arabic even with the similar mentality that doesn't mean he still a Muslim !! Islam is a system of a specific beliefs If you don't believe in it you're not a Muslim ...

1 - I get out of Islam cause of the moral contradictions , How can god have mercy and justice when he created all of those disasters + hate + violence , He probably enjoy all of the dead bodies in syria and Iraq , etc .. That's the best explanation .. I don't want to argue about the religious explanations of fight which is called " Jihad " / holy war whatever , I know the story and how Jihad begin when the Mongols destroy everything then the concept of Jihad came by " Ibn taymiah " who still exist now in all of the terrorist organizations .. I'm talking about the killing itself The god wrote everything in this existence Isn't it ?? So of course he wrote all of the injustices .. He created the half million in Syria to kill them all .. That's the concept of God in Islam and other religions who admit that God is a moral thing ..

2 - Epistemology problem , Islam pretend It has an absolute truth about the existence and everything when Its fundamentals literally denied all of the logical mindset They literally said that the Logic is a human concept and we should not think out of the text of the holy book "Qura'an" .. There is a whole book for this topic It's called ( The logic ) by Ibn taymiah , He was cursing all of the philosophers and logical teachers , It's an old book but It has a new versions - I don't know If it's exist by English language .. So they literally being against all of the scientific thinking and any logical perceptions .. Any scientists doesn't believe in the Ibn taymiah ideology for sure You can't collect those contradictions ..

3 - Tribalism mindset .. Many Islamic scholars for long time until now are biased They don't have really a common ground with a different religions To be honest the secular Muslims and liberals are fine I talked with them .. In middle East there is new group you gonna find them everywhere who follow " the Quran "only not the Hadith and they don't believe in any stories those also fine that means they are out of the religious groups ( sunna , shia ) and there is many things they're being against it like killing the Ex Muslims cause It exist in Hadith not the Quran , Still fine .. But the origins and The fundamentals I call them The infidels of the humans are still there .. You can fool the kids and the new generations with the secular Muslims and Qur'anic party whatever but that doesn't work for us at all as an Ex- Muslims , I think we already pass it ..

I'm waiting for respond ...

Tin-Man's picture
Hey, Adonis, if you are

Hey, Adonis, if you are waiting on a response from Wideside, it will be a mighty long wait. That dude got his ass booted out of here. Just a little FYI.

liomem's picture
Haha It seems like ...

Haha It seems like ...

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