Hi Guys, I am doing some research into the loss of religion in modern society and how else these needs can be fulfilled? I would really appreciate it if you could answer these questions for this research, Thank You!
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfMQMXVZZWxPCssQKdX13mcETojUOm0...
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Okay. I am completely perplexed. What needs?
I don't belong to any and have not for a long time. No need at all.
No need. No belonging. No help or need of help from any of them
Questions do not apply to my life.
I did look at the questions and the study is flawed. It makes tha assumption that "religious needs" need to be replaced with something. When one is infected with a virus one does not have to replace it with another or have a substitute in its place. The questions are leading an thus the study is useless.
What a stupid questionnaire!
*Do you belong to any of the following...
.
.
Atheist Church
.*
What? Atheist Church? There is no such thing as an Atheist Church for Christ's sake (pan intended)!
This alone shows the level of ignorance of the person who designed it.
And besides, after you answer this question with "I do not belong to any groups like these." the rest of it is irrelevant.
Actually there are MANY atheist churches. They even have a minister and all. Google it. Only further validating that atheism truly is just another beleif.
SfT
Your ignorance know no bounds does it? Everything you have ever posted is a lie or avoidance of answer questions. Why are you such a coward in answering these two questions Sheldon asked you? (Sheldon actually asked three, but these are the two I remember.) Best thing for you is to disappear.
Is it ever moral for a man in his 50s to rape a nine year old girl?
What is the penalty for apostasy in Islamic beliefs?
You already know the answers and, as said, too much of a coward to answer.
As for the questionnaire, I gave the same acerbic and acidic remarks I would have given here. That study was a lesson on how ignorant all Religious Absolutists are.
rmfr
EDIT: inserted omitted word
https://www.economist.com/erasmus/2018/05/16/the-elusive-phenomenon-of-c...
https://www.economist.com/erasmus/2018/05/16/the-elusive-phenomenon-of-c...
Searched it, still not a religion, an analogy doesn't mean equal identity.
@talyyn
Maybe using the google search engine isn’t your strong point so I did a quick search for you.
https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2018/11/11/atheist-minister-will-kee...
http://www.sundayassemblyla.org/my_sunday_at_atheist_church
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Church+of+Atheism+of+Central+Canada/@44.9625967,-76.5350886,15z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0xb50c4945022d58bd?ved=2ahUKEwiVoJKG6tHeAhUIHHwKHfq_AvsQ_BIwCnoECAUQCA
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/10/atheist-mega-churc...
There are a LOT and I mean a LOT more than the above. Maybe you can also find a church near you to go and practice your belief too. Even get to talk to a minister and all. Regardless of what is done there Atheists go to their churches on Sundays same way Christians do. They are even looking for donors just like Christians do too. Hmmmmm I am sensing a theme here……………..
First, an integral part of religion, if not essential, is the beliefs in supernatural entities called gods.
Patheos: "A reverend for the United Church of Canada faced expulsion from the religion because she admitted she doesn’t believe in God, but it now looks like Gretta Vosper will be safe in her position. We’ve written about Vosper’s ordeal before. She announced plans to create a non-theistic congregation after church leaders decided to “review” her status as a minister in their faith in light of her professed lack of belief."
Nowhere is mentionned an atheist church, nor the fact that atheism is a religion.
sundayassemblyla: "This morning, I went to “atheist church.”* Well, I’m sure they wouldn’t call it that but, as steeped in Christian culture as I am and, for lack of a better word…. "
The opinion of a believer, not a statement made by all atheists.
usatoday.com: "LOS ANGELES (AP) — It looked like a typical Sunday morning at any mega-church. Hundreds packed in for more than an hour of rousing music, an inspirational sermon, a reading and some quiet reflection. The only thing missing was God.
Dozens of gatherings dubbed "atheist mega-churches" by supporters and detractors are springing up around the U.S. after finding success in Great Britain earlier this year. "
belief in non belief is a contradictory expression, it is likely something more like commitment.
@talyyn
You can use all the word play you want but, if it sounds like a duck, walks like a duck.......
@ SfT: "You can use all the word play you want but, if it sounds like a duck, walks like a duck......."
You should know how to recognize word salad since that is all you know...
Is it ever moral for a 50 year old man to rape a 9 year old child?
What is the penalty for apostasy in YOUR Islamic religious beliefs?
rmfr
the belief in and worship of a god or gods, or any such system of belief and worship (dictionary.cambridge)
the service and worship of God or the supernatural ; commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance (merriam-webster)
The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods (oxforddictionaries)
Do all atheists visit these churches? Has there been some sort of "Niceane Council" proclaiming a creed of Atheism?
Ho! You still didn't answer those three little questions...
SFT: You can use all the word play you want but, if it sounds like a duck, walks like a duck.......
Obviously SFT got tired and fell asleep at the keyboard before finishing his last thought. Okay boys and girls, it's class time. Was SFT going to say......
A. smells like a duck, it's a mushroom.
B. tastes like a duck, I'm gonna eat it.
C. and has feathers like a duck, you can make a pillow.
D. and looks like a duck, feed it some bread.
E. None of the above. I have a funnier response so see my post below.
What noise does an Allah make? Or indeed, what effect on reality does an Allah have? If it has no measurable effect on reality...
So your position is that if one member of an identified group does something, then the entire group is like that?
Some muslims wear suicide vests ... thus .................
Searching for truth, don't go down that road.
i make it clear in case he doesn't get it:
The opinion of a believer, NOT A STATEMENT MADE BY ALL ATHEISTS.
@ SfT: "Hmmmmm I am sensing a theme here…………….."
So am I.
Is it ever moral for a 50 year old man to rape a 9 year old child?
What is the penalty for apostasy in YOUR religion?
rmfr
RE: SFT
When God was passing out the brains, you thought he said "Trains" so you got a green one that goes round and round and round on the same track while making little "toot, toot" noises.
Oh, you mean those perfectly non-sequitur memes that try very desperately to force atheism to fit into a tortured definition of ‘religion’ with a false equivalency- because you know, OPPOSING religion MAKES YOU a religion?
If atheism is a religion, then wouldn’t unemployment be an occupation? If atheist activism were a religion, then wouldn’t LGBT activism be an example of heterosexism? Wouldn’t womens’ rights activism be an example of male supremacy?
And also, even if we were to redefine “religion” as “anything that involves community, meeting places, a logo, and public speakers” rather than “following an absolute divine authority”, then just imagine how many things would become “religions” overnight: politics, voting, sports, every socio-political activist movement in human history, etc., to the point that it would utterly destroy the ability of the term “religion” to mean what you want it to mean. Careful what you wish for...
A premise that is false cannot become more true.
Atheism at its most basic is the lack of belief in the existence of gods. For atheism to be a belief, it must make a claim about knowledge of the external world.
Theists are unable to show that supernatural beings exist as part of the phenomenal world.
In regards to the Hulkster claiming that atheism is a religion/belief system.... *face palm*....
Hey, guys! I just recently ran across this “new” religion. Maybe some of you have heard about it? Was hoping to get some better input on it. Now, from what I understand, there are dozens of different “sub-sects” of this religion, but they all seem to revolve around the same belief system. And, so far as I can tell, the only difference between the different sects has to do primarily with the name by which they call their chosen deity. I know, I know. Sounds totally absurd to me, too, but it seems to be incredibly popular across a wide variety of races, genders, and people of varying social and economic status. Matter of fact, from what little I have seen, it would appear to be turning into a multi-billion dollar belief system.
Worship times are typically on weekends, but there are meetings during the week every now and then, especially on Monday nights. And those gatherings can be as small and simple as just a few family members and close friends sitting around in the den to discuss the merits and recruiting methods of their chosen deity, while praying that their chosen warriors have the strength and cunning to win the next inevitable battle against one of the other sects. Traditional food items and a wide variety of ceremonial beverages are often involved in these meetings. Oh, and each sect has its own unique logo, motto, and song to glorify and praise their respective deity, and to identify themselves as being totally devoted to that specific deity. Like any such belief system, however, some of the followers are fiercely devoted and can often resort to violence to defend the name of their particular deity. Some would consider them to be “radicals”. Other (most) members, however, just sort of go through the motions of supporting their deity, and even have been known to switch back and forth between the different sects from time to time. Again, yeah, I know, the whole thing seems pretty dang bizarre. But, like I said, it seems to be an incredibly popular religion, particularly here in the U.S. Oh, but it gets even better….
A major part of this religion involves regularly scheduled battles between any given two of the different sects. There are hundreds of incredibly expensive and elaborate stadium type churches scattered all over the country that were built specifically to host these battles. The more popular churches have literally thousands of seats arranged in a tiered-fashion around a large field of battle, with that field size being a standard 120 yards long and just slightly over 53 yards across. These battles are highly organized, and they involve very strictly enforced rules and rituals that have evolved in various ways with the ever-changing standards of society. Often, hundreds (or even thousands) of followers from each competing sect will fill the churches to capacity, with the followers of one sect seated on one side of the battle field, and the followers of the other sect on the opposite side. Each sect has designated warriors representing their deity, with many of those warriors having been chosen from birth and raised and groomed all of their lives to represent their chosen deity.
The battle is centered around a sacred leather “missile”. Only eleven warriors from each sect are allowed on the field of battle at any given time, and the goal of the battle is for the sect in control of the sacred missile to deliver the missile into the Holy Sector of the opposing sect. The sect that accomplishes this mission the most times within the battle is considered victorious.
Anyway, I could go into much more detail about all of this, but I think that should be enough for now to indicate just how ridiculous and out of hand this religion has become. Anybody else got any thoughts on this?
@ Tin-Man
Love it! Let the sects kill each other off. And Us meek atheists shall inherit...
rmfr
Re: Questions
Ummmm.... Am I missing something here? Since I do not belong to any of those groups (Question 1), then none of the other questions apply to me in any way. Sooooo.... What exactly would I be contributing by answering any of that? Thanks, but I do believe I will pass.
That survey is typical of the type of rubbish cobbled together by Xtians when they come here to proselytize under the guise of asking for our help with "research" or "school papers".
Belonging to some kind of religious organization is obviously the default position for the author.
Exactly what needs are you talking about? Because if you mean ‘needs’ as in “spiritual” or “comfort”, then no thanks, I don’t need those things because the former is imaginary, and I don’t need the latter because, I mean, why blind and lie to myself with warm-fuzzies when I already have honesty, logic, and reason?
If you mean ‘needs’ as in “sense of community”, then I’m already good. I already have friends in real life who are also atheists, and I have this very community that I am posting this comment on. :)
If you mean ‘needs’ as in “moral compass”, then again, I’m fine. My morality is not just something that comes from some millennia-old storybook; it comes from empathy- the inborn capacity/instinct to care for others that is present in all of us humans, as well as virtually all other social species. Actual morality is selflessly doing what you think is right, without expecting anything in return. Religious “morality”, however, is practicing unquestioned obedience to authority through fear of punishment and/or promise of moral dessert (!).
@SFT
Would you mind give us a definition of religion, taking yours, islam as an example?
Oh oh oh.... let me... Islam, a religion of peace where a murdering butchering pedophile hides out in a cave for a few days listening to an angel that works for a bigger murdering butchering child raping pedophile, writes down some words and calls it the last testament of God. The Whorely Qua'aran
I was going to answer but SFT deserves this honor.
Here is all the moral compass you need:
http://www.atheistrepublic.com/gallery/you-don-t-need-religion-have-morals
www.atheistrepublic.com/gallery/do-animals-have-morals-show-empathy
rmfr