Hi everybody, I have a question about islam that maybe one or more of our ex-muslims can give me an opinion. I have argued with people about this for some time. Purely from my observation alone, I do believe that practicing muslims seem to be more devout in greater numbers than Christians. Now that being said, I really think that as the ratio of muslims to non-muslims increase in my country and others (as they are at a alarming rate) the mainstream muslim (if that exists) will turn against non-muslin if they are told or convinced that the time has come and it is allah’s will. As I have said this is purely from my observation, I have no evidence at all that this could be true, and I not saying it is. I have been told by one muslim I knew fairly well that muslims are not at all obligated to be truthful with any infidels, we are not worthy of the truth. Could this be the reason for the mass invasion of muslims to non-muslim countries? I would appreciate any input from any one that has been indoctrinated in the islam religion. I think there could be more secrets.
OK let me reiterate, I am just asking a question. I really hope I am wrong, and being a little paranoid.
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I don't have a past in islam, but i think that is largely paranoid. For this to happen, there would have to be a wide spanning conspiracy with a central apparatus, and islamic states are fractured as it is. Whether fringe groups do this is something to be studied. Muslim immigrants come to america for the same reason other immigrants do - to make money and stuff.
9/11
not immigrants
Same thing.
racist
Fuck you, cunt. I'm no racist. That comment was totally unjustified. You fucking son of a bitch.
VPT, Islam is not a race. It is a religion. Therefore, any comment about Muslims is not racist. Countries / nations are not races. Therefore, any comment about a nation is not racist. Anyone thinking otherwise is actually, IMO, closer to being a racist than the person they are accusing of it.
I have no doubt that if one day there was a Muslim majority in a country, the fist nut-job that wants power and fame would use those lines in the book to try and take over the country.
Humans are easily taken by greed and Islam is a tool to achieve that.
"there would have to be a wide spanning conspiracy"
not at all, a tool like a religion can be used by anyone, so no one is claiming that someone is planning this, but any Muslim leader would want more possible flock, so all Muslim leaders would agree to spread and multiply as much as possible even if they never met each other.
Look at it as a marketing and business.
The more rich a place is the more profits and possibilities you have for your products.
There is no conspiracy to invest in rich places, there is common interest for it to happen.
Do you really believe that Saudi Arabia would maintain its tyrannical authority so efficiently without Islam to control it's subjects?
Vincent and Jeff thanks for your comments I think I am somewhere in the middle of your comments. I think most conspiracy theories are too hard to keep secret. I am not so sure about these people.
Hmm, “nut-job”
Let’s get our bath mats (I like the furry ones), face Mecca, get on our knees, face on the rug (I thought you are supposed to face Mecca?), ass up in the air, and pray to a nonexistent deity, but first they must clean at least the hands, feet and face in preparation.
FIVE times a day on schedule.
Nope, no nut-jobs here
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HCA, I was addressing this specific part of your post:
" Now that being said, I really think that as the ratio of muslims to non-muslims increase in my country and others (as they are at a alarming rate) the mainstream muslim (if that exists) will turn against non-muslin if they are told or convinced that the time has come and it is allah’s will. As I have said this is purely from my observation, I have no evidence at all that this could be true, and I not saying it is. I have been told by one muslim I knew fairly well that muslims are not at all obligated to be truthful with any infidels, we are not worthy of the truth. Could this be the reason for the mass invasion of muslims to non-muslim countries?"
For people to emigrate on mass to convert a civilization to a different ideal would either take a majority of them thinking of this independently or being told to do so by a central apparatus. I doubt such a thing could be kept under wraps either way. Of course, this is speculation. But Islam is growing, and pretending it wont eventually come to our doorsteps and ignoring what fosters it, hoping it will go away as long as it isnt on our lawn, is a recipe for disaster
"I doubt such a thing could be kept under wraps either way"
There are islamic leaders in the US that don't bother keeping it under wraps and openly admit their goal is a islamic government in the US. I cant remember at the moment what group or who said it. I just hope this IS a radical agenda that never comes to pass. That would put us back in the dark ages.
By the way islam is not only the fastest growing religion in the world, but so is the general population of middle eastern and undeveloped countries where islam is prevalent. These populations are or will be on average younger and more inclined to violence.
See
51% of America’s Muslims Want Sharia Law
http://pamelageller.com/2015/10/51-of-americas-muslims-want-sharia-law-a...