You seem to know a lot and also hold yourself to a higher level of intelligence then us dumb Atheists...but the problem is you do not seem to have an original thought...I am not in anyway a genius nor do I believe I am smarter than most people on this site.
Here is my proposal
1. I will let you choose an argument, any argument you want as long as it is an original thought.
2. We can cite other sources of knowledge in order to answer the oppositions questions.
3. It cannot be a word problem
4. Your argument has to come from the bible directly.
5. Answers must have evidence to back them up (opinions are fine as long as they are stated as so)
Reply if you would accept this challenge.
Also I would ask that if a question is proposed no one comments until both sides have laid out there answers.
Thank you sincerely,
Burn your bible
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I love the smell of Kalam in the morning, You know, one time we had a thread bombed, for about 12 days. When it was all over, I walked up. ;))))
Hi, Peripatetic. Welcome back.
I think Peripatetic is a Muslim.
For all we know he is God due to the fact as soon as I call to him he doesn't answer...
I, therefore do not exist.
Yes you do not exist, or you have no evidence to back up anything you assert. If the only thing you bring to the discussion are insults then go silent and believe your fairy tales.
Peripatetic???
Burnyourbible, at this hour, in other parts of the world, such as my own country, decent people are sleeping, and in Australia they are probably having lunch...This USA egomaniacs... xD Let him be.
Well this is interesting...
Why can't he have an unoriginal (edit) argument? Try to come up with a good unoriginal argument for atheism. I highly doubt you can.
No argument is necessary since atheism makes no assertions. It is merely a response of, "I dont believe that," to the assertion of theism.
Unless you are agnostic, you assert God does not exist or it is highly improbable. That is an assertion which requires argumentation otherwise it can be denied by assertion.
Dumb Ox: "That is an assertion which requires argumentation"
I went through religious education and indoctrination. I read the Bible, attended Sunday School, and was forced to participate in daily prayer sessions at school. I also studied the various philosophical proofs put forward by people like Anselm and Aquinas.
After all that, I remain unconvinced. I haven't heard any argument or seen any evidence that makes the existence of god a believable proposition for me. That's the only assertion I make.
And can you actually demonstrate why Aquinas' arguments are flawed? I do agree with you on Anselm and so do a lot of theists.
Dumb Ox: "And can you actually demonstrate why Aquinas' arguments are flawed?"
I don't have to, because I don't have a shaky foundation of faith that needs to be propped up with casuistry and sophism.
There are countless interminable threads on those topics on this forum, sprinkled with obscene insults from people like Peripatetic. I'm not going to get into more endless circular debates. I have a day job.
No, no, no. I am both atheist and agnostic. The first is about belief and the latter is about knowledge. I do not believe your assertion that god(s) exist AND I don't know if they do or not, I cannot know (and neither can you).
It's not that he needs to come up with something no one has said before, but I feel he only regurgitates from others. As with comedy routines people have the same premise but they have their own explanation.
Also I did not say he needs to come up with an original argument hence why I added we can cite sources of evidence. He needs to have an original thought...
There is no good reason to believe in a god! That is why I am an atheist ! I am without belief in gods.
I am an athiest because I have researched the god claims and have realized there are fundamental issues with each and everyone. The issue is of absolute certainty... I do not know that there is no god but I know that the gods that have been presented all have failed to meet their burden of proof