Did the Egyptian empire start to decline around the time the exodus supposedly happened?
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Why don’t you go to the library, get a book on it, and find out.
thanks
The main thing of note regarding your question would be: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Bronze_Age_collapse
But collapses were common in pre-modern agricultural societies.
Do you think that maybe the collapse inspired the Israelite tribe to makeshift stories based on other stories to fit there dominant god theory .
Christ, another tediously vapid pointless thread.
thanks my little stalker must be a fan boy or girl
Typical, not content with yet another thread of vapid superstitious bilge, you're now resorting to ad hominem. You gotta love religious apologists.
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The Exodus is a myth, that is not supported by any evidence. Asking if something happened around the time a myth is claimed to have occurred, is like asking if dragons breathed fire in during the middle ages.
No amount of ad hominem from you will make this topic less vapid or pointless.
Ok so because the exodus is a myth that means that Egypt did not go through times of decline around that time period ok i will take your word for it. Remember i am not trying to prove the exodus i am using it as a time marker. Thank you sheldon my friend thank you .
Do you realize how crazy you sound when you say you want to use a fictional event---one that never happened---as a "time marker"?
"Ok so because the exodus is a myth that means that Egypt did not go through times of decline around that time period ok i will take your word for it."
You're asking if an historical event occurred at the same time as a mythical event, do you really not grasp how absurd that is? Nothing about that is my word either, and a perfunctory Google search is all you need here.
"Remember i am not trying to prove the exodus i am using it as a time marker. "
Sigh, how can something that never happened be a time marker?
ok don't worry it doesn't matter if you don't understand anyway.
@Spudnik:
Look up the Thera (Santorini) eruption and the Sea Peoples. Just like the modern era, the balance of power in the ancient world was periodically disrupted by natural disasters, wars, plagues, etc. For some of these events we have geological and historical evidence. For the Exodus we have nothing but the legend in the Bible. Naturally that legend puffs up the importance of the Hebrews and their tribal sky-fairy, but I doubt that a minor group like the Hebrews could have had any major impact on a superpower like Egypt. Egypt's decline resulted from attacks by the Sea Peoples, the Nubians, the Assyrians, and the Persians. After that they were conquered first by Alexander and then by the Romans.
and then by the muslims arabs.
@talynEarth03: and then by the muslims arabs.
...and the French, and the British...
And there was in fact a time when Egypt's military strength was severely impacted by the Hebrews. That was in the Six-Day War of 1967, when Israel obliterated most of Egypt's air force. But you'd need to draw a very long bow to claim any link between that and Exodus legend in the Bible.
Spud: What is your reason to believe the Egyptian Empire began to decline associated with any Hebrew influence?
Some christian on another message board was saying that after the exodus happened egypt never recovered to it former glory
@Spudnik: After the exodus happened egypt never recovered to it former gloryWell
Even if we accept the literal Biblical account (which nobody with a functioning brain should!), the Exodus is supposed to have happened 400 years before the construction of Solomon's temple, which would put it around 1450BC. In 1279 Ramesses II came to the throne of Egypt. He is generally regarded as the greatest Pharoah of all, having expanded Egypt's strength through numerous military campaigns. He was also responsible for the construction of many great buildings and monuments, including the temple of Abu Simbel, and the city of Pi-Ramesses.
And he did all of that without 600,000 Hebrew slaves. So the Christian was talking bullshit. What a surprise.
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see this is the kind of reply i was looking for this is much better than the word vapid thank you. Was this period as great as the 1500 bce period.
@Spudnik
"see this is the kind of reply i was looking for this is much better than the word vapid thank you. Was this period as great as the 1500 bce period."
Look it up YOURSELF.
Is it really that difficult for you to do your own research on the history of Egypt? Not only will you actually know more, but you won't appear to be a very lazy and ignorant poster. Nothing bugs me more than someone with the ability to think yet decide to live a life of perpetual synapse freeze.
There isn't a shred of evidence that Exodus ever happened. It's another biblical myth.
You could have Googled that yourself, as could this Christian you are claiming made the statement on another forum. Though I'm dubious about your claim if I'm honest.
@ Spudnik
ah..I give up..."some christian" who? when? "on another message board" which , when, what were you discussing? "saying that after the exodus happened egypt never recovered to it former glory" how does this phantom poster know? Does he /she have a PhD in Egyptian Pharanoic History? What evidence did they give you that made you convinced enough to ask us here?
Are you 12? Younger? If you are older then you have to start learning for yourself.
"Some christian on another message "
Why not ask them to validate their own claim?
@ Spudnik
Did the Egyptian empire start to decline around the time the exodus supposedly happened?
No.
Another stupid OP about the exodus.
Is someone paying you to post about the exodus?
Spudnik, archeology does not support the Exodus. In fact, all evidence indicates the Jewish tribes never left the Levant.
The events of the Exodus story has been dated to essentially anytime during the 2nd millennium BC, and was written and revised sometime in the 1st millennium BC. It is senseless to use something so vague as a "time marker".
Given that the story is known to be fiction and would require not only a rejection of an extensive collection of facts but a belief in the contravention of the laws of nature in order to be considered true, it is difficult for me to see what use a "time marker" would have.
What forum was this Christian on?
There is a free pdf online thst provides, all nice and legit, the first three chspters of Friedman's Who Wrote the Bible? which shows the Exodus story in the bible is two different accounts expertly pasted together but reveals politicsl and religous evidence that it was written AFTER the estsblishment of Israel and Judah, long after the supposed 'escape ftom Egypt'. The bible is as much a history book as The Lord of the Rings.
I'll post the link if snyone needs it when I get home tonight. Everyone should read it.
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