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For the record I do have a girlfriend although it is after sunrise and nothing happened at all. As you can imagine I am not all to pleased with this result.
I compare many of the religious experiences with that of a rock concert. In a group of people the energy and the sheer bond you feel with people singing out the same songs can be transcendent. I used to think it was from the Holy Spirit that these tingling euphoric feeling came from.
My childhood church promoted living in the spirit by speaking in tongues and being prayed over til they fall back into someone's arms. They called this being slain in the spirit. When I stopped buying into the fantasy of religion these experience made logical sense. Surprised we didn't dance with snakes.
Did you ever have hallucinations?
Hallucinations?
I felt like I did once. I was on my knees praying up in front of church with others then as I walked back to my seat I felt so lightheaded and euphoric I saw the Holy Spirit in this beautiful white ora and was so ecstatic. Now I realize my blood circulation was cut off when I was kneeling so long so as soon as I jumped up all blood rushed to my head.
JacobCorneluis,
The Fatima miracle was cooked up by the Portugal church because it was under attack by the government. It needed something to make itself relevant to be people before the lights went out. So it concocted the story with the girls in order to give the people a cause to believe in again. They pulled it off and reversed the government's attack against the church.
https://www.franciscanmedia.org/blesseds-jacinta-and-francisco-marto/
http://www.fatima.org/essentials/facts/histcontext.asp
I was there actually, and I had the same image, that being from staring for a long period.
It was not witnessed by 70K people. It was coerced from them.
I swear people are so damned gullible and to the OP I say use the common sense our species is supposed to have.
Crap.
@JacobCorneluis
Only you can take the steps to reason. Letting go can be hard, but you have to look at the lies religion tells you. JacobCorneluis can you provide evidence of your god that is testable by science? The bible is not evidence of a god existing.
Jacob.....
This may help you see how such stories are propagated......
Look up the Angel Of Mons.....
1914...First World War..... British Expeditionary Force getting a "right good kicking" (technical term for "loosing") at the hands of the German Imperial armies....
The BEF begins to retreat.... (technical term for "running"...)....they make it back to the line of the of the French /Belgium border at Mons...
There had been several attempts to make a stand and stop the Germans...but all unsuccessful.... but here at Mons...the Brits dug in...and stopped the Germans...in fact they didn't just stop them...they threw them back.... WHY/HOW?
A newspaper wrote of tales of troops seeing ghostly figures of mediaeval archers in the sky...firing their bows towards the German lines.....
The stories grew over the next few days....soon the ghostly warriors became an army of Angels..... fighting against the Hun...
The story was questioned...obviously... but then returning soldiers started telling the same tales... each retelling more fantastic than the last.... and when questioned these soldiers seemed to really believe what they were saying....
BUT...the story was nothing more than a tale printed by a newspaper writer...who had been told to print something to lift the morale of the public after a string of bad news....
So why did these soldiers lie ? why did the public lap up the obviously tall tale ?
Perhaps because they wanted...really wanted it to be true.....(maybe NEEDED it to be true.)
Oh yes...the real reason the Germans stopped advancing ?.....
The Brits had run so far so fast that the Huns had out distanced their supply columns... they were getting no food..no ammo...no medicines...they only had one recourse..... pull back.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angels_of_Mons
JC you've been struggling with this for a while. Sounds like you're at that point where you're asking yourself "what if I'm wrong?" It's scary. It sucks. Unfortunately, it's up to you, you and you to get through that. I'll give you this for thought though... thousands of people allegedly saw this "miracle" and then the story has been told. After all that, you post it here to see what others have to say about it. That itself shows how unconvincing miracles really are. I wish you the best man.
JacobCorneluis,
The purpose of the biblical miracles was to support the idea that God was the Israelites' buddy and protector as expressed in Exodus 34:10 (CEV) = "The Lord said: I promise to perform miracles for you that have never been seen anywhere on earth. Neighboring nations will stand in fear and know that I was the one who did these marvelous things."
It pays to remember that although Moses and Jesus supposedly did a lot of miracles the people were not impressed. So if the people who supposedly saw them with their own eyes didn't believe in the "miracles" why are people thousands of years removed from the alleged events so gullible?
The Catholics are going to canonize two of the young women that created this fraud. This is in the news today. Big day for gullible fools. Of course , these two youngsters were rewarded by their god in 1919 when they died a miserable death by influenza. Now there is a god you want to work for.
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