Ask a flat-earthers if they use GPS navigation in their cars. If so, where are satellites that provide the signals? Ask them also why the stars look different from Australia/New Zealand. Is somebody tampering with the constellations to fool us? I can't see the Pole Star from here, but I sure can see the Southern Cross pointing due south at South Pole.

There is so much commonsense evidence against flat-earthism. Time zones are another example. If you go up in airplane, the world actually looks round beneath you. Even standing on a beach you can see it if you watch vessels come floating up over the horizon.

The only question that remains is whether flat-earthers are nuttier than hollow-earthers.

Apparently the international or national flat earth society is having their convention in my hometown, Raleigh, NC. Some were interviewed by the newspapers. I think some of them actually believe this shit. I even found a website with a photo of the wall at the earth's edge. It wasn't ice. You could see it was built. So how come all the water didn't run off the earth before they built tthe wall? And if it did run off the edge, where does it go? Inquiring minds want to know. Unlike flat earthers.

I've looked into it extensively but had to drop it because flat Earthers more bat shit crazy than creationists, it made me go twitchy (although I think their philosophies are closely related inbred cousins, although they aren't necessarily mutually inclusively).
It all stems back to an experiment done in Bedfordshire, England in 1860s. Their is a stretch of canal that is completely straight for 6 miles  (9.6 km). The experiment involved sending a boat down the stretch whilst observing it through a telescope. When the boat arrived at the end, it could still been seen. Now accorsing to the formula for working out curvature of the Earth (every kilometre toward the horizon you drop 8 centimetres below it) the boat should have been nearly 8 metres below the horizon and therefore shouldn't have been able to be seen. Of course what they failed to take into account is that water vapour raising of the water refracts light, thus explain why an object 8m below the horizon can still be seen.

Now to the "globe Earth conspiracy". The conspiracy theory goes that we deliberately taught the world is round with other fundamental facts (1+1=2, colours of the Rainbow are red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, violet, the musical scale is doh, rai, me, fa, so, la, te, doh, etc) so it is at the core of what we know to be true, so when somebody comes along and says "the world is flat" we look at them like they've just told us that 1+1=3. Flat Earthers do genuine believe that rest of us have been duped by the biggest conspiracy in human history, they even look at us with pity (and at time with a smug arrogance) that we are still gave been duped and they know the truth.

The reason for the conspiracy, what good does it do to perpetuated the globe Earth conspiracy? Well the theory goes that after Columbus discovered America, the round world theory got taken as fact. It wasn't until the 1960 when we sent rockets up that we could see for sure if it was round or flat. Apparently, according to flat Earthers, they found that world was a disc, under a dome, which scared the shit out them. According to Flat Earthers, NASA and the Russian space agency sent nukes up, over a 5 year period, to try and break the dome which they failed to do. They now continue to perpetuated the lie because it's a multi-billion dollar per year industry. Doctoring photographs to help prove their lie

Now they tell us to use our eyes, and as we personally have never been to space, we can't have seen the round Earth. To which I say, if you look around you can see evidence of how lazy nature is. If you throw water up in the air, it forms droplets, ie small spheres, not disks, you blow bubbles and they come out in in spheres, not flat disks, it stands to reason that on a much larger scale, this pattern of nature's laziness would hold true on something as large as the Earth. Of course this is futile because just like creationists, there is no reasoning with flat Earthers.

Personally I believe there is a sinister motive behind it, an attempt to regress the the masses knowledge to that of the dark ages, after all an ignorant population is easy to control through manipulation.

Just writing this and dealing with this level of stupidity has given me a headache, I'm gonna take a break and maybe some paracetamol.

Sadly my son is a flat earther. He believe that ice walls hold the water in. The boy recently was working on a skyscraper, I guess he didn't notice the curvature of the earth.

To me the whole thing reeks of someone desperately trying to keep their belief going in the face of evidence to the contray. Isn't that the definition of stupidity?

I have a hard time believing anyone that has access to modern equipment, and has at least a high school education in understanding the world around them truly believe the earth is flat. (And to what purpose?)

But hey, at least those people give other major religion theist a run for their money when it comes to immense denial and ignorance?

I messaged with a woman about it a little. She had a measurement of something about eight inches of sinkage behind the horizon per mile of distance and she stated she didn't understand all the details but that was impossible because she can see right to the bottom of things that are miles and miles away. Never got down to whether she was standing on a mountain or not but it became obvious very quickly that she didn't understand the mathematics and therefore considered them wrong.

Naw, all those planes that fly over half the world, over the pacific ocean and stuff, they fly around the edges and go the long way to their destination in effort to keep the grand conspiracy up. All the windows on those planes are really super high resolution tv screens to trick people. Using 100's of precisely calibrated cameras while on the ground and infallible recording and playback technology while in the air. They refuel the planes at great expense in mid air to make the real 18k mile trip that (no commercial plane has fuel capacity for yet that we know of,) that should've been a trip of only 6000 miles. The pilots are sworn to secrecy, and the planes are special planes that can travel 3x faster than other commercial planes, but are able to hide/prevent the effects of going 1500 mph instead of just 500.

Why the giant conspiracy? Because if everyone knew the earth was flat, it would be obvious it was created by god, and the earth is the center of the universe. That would be too easy!

Yeah.. that is way more likely than the earth is flat.

/sarcasm *now turned off*

Man I would love to argue an actual flat earther. I have flow across the pacific several times, and across the atlantic nearly a dozen times.

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if so pie does nor exist in any form.....

If the Earth is flat what about the moon and the planets? Is the moon simply a flat plate that's perpendicular to our field of view? Or is everything else a spheroid with the Earth being the only flat planet?

The Flat Earthers built the town of Zion in Illinois as their "capital". They were all insane.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_Community_Church

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From 2017 = http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2017/06/08/flat-earth-billboard-schuylk...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilbur_Glenn_Voliva

Sometimes I hope that we get hit with a giant killer asteroid to put us out of our misery. People have gotten too stupid to continue to survive.