A short glance at history and a clear look at the lies of today on one hand will teach you one thing and that is that fear expands lies and the lies expand the fear making it a self repeating cycle without a way out.
On the other hand a glance at history and a dialogue with intellectually dishonest individuals forces you to see the false pride and failure to accept that they had a mistake and go on with their life after making it a lesson.
Though this factors might be sound silly and simple they influence our lives and choices, please sit down and reflect the days when you lied become intellectuallydishonest and try to comprehend what part of you is the most unreasonable, dishonest and Unintellectual? And see how you changed for the good or bad?
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"Lied become intellectually"
Elaborate please, as the current structure of that sentace makes your message confusing if not downright incomprehensible.
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I have to suspect English is not this person's first language, so we should try to give them the benefit of the doubt. That being said:
I can't make heads or tails of the huge sentence you took that quote from either. I find myself reading it over and over, trying to insert punctuation or other small changes to make it coherent, but I can't seem to find an easy fix. Furthermore it seems that sentence is pretty central to their message, which makes commenting on the subject matter difficult since I don't understand it.
Also, it is unclear what you mean by false. There are many defintions of it. So unless clarification is given, there can be no construtive conversation surrounding your message. Unless your talking about "false" in a spiritual sence, then we are riding an entirely different showboat.
Becaming intellectually dishonest and failing to face reality that comes while being frozen in a state of false pride even when you ideas are no longer worth defending.
If you are suggesting intellectuality is a lie or implies dishonesty, I'm afraid you have no clue what the hell your talking about.
Sorry for the error/ confusion It is because english is my fifth language.
What I wanted to say was that intellectual dishonesty is an active lie that is motivated by either an irrational fear of opposing ideas or false pride (arrogance) on idea that is not based on facts.
You are absolutely correct! Hubris, pride, intellectual dishonesty are all motivated by fear and ignorance, and are arrogant by nature.
Having pride is caused by dishonesty and fear?
No I mean false pride in an idea that is not intellectual and has no scientific evidence to support it.
I see. Forgive me for my misunderstanding. I feel the only time I've ever fallen prey to that is when I was still religious. Beyond that I've only ever trusted or accepted anything as proportioned to the evidence (or lack thereof) I could find. No evidence. No trust.
Oh, and welcome back to the forums.
Well I don't really know what to make of your post. I have never had the problem of fear or at least not being able to deal with it. As far as pride goes, I am not exactly humble but I don't think I suffer from hubris either. I have always been willing to lesson to reason, and I have never had a problem in owning up and admitting mistakes. You might check out my recent apology on another thread. So I can't fit in either of your given circumstances. I am passionate, and do go to extremes if I know that I am right.
That comes from being misunderstood most of my life. People make assumption and in the past they have always made the wrong assumption about me. I know from experience that this will happen so I am prepared to deal with it. I know that merely explaining something isn't good enough when someone has made up their mind.
The Japanese have a custom that is hard to follow but very effective. It requires a great deal of self confidence and absolutely no ego. They let the other person win. They refuse to argue. They may full well that they are correct but to them being correct isn't the issue. Not arguing is the issue and they just won't do it.
I can't do it. I've tried but it is extremely difficult. Try it, you'll see exactly what I mean. Say a theist professes to you that there is a god and gives (as usual) a lame excuse for why there is a god. If you without smugness or condescension can agree with them knowing full well that they didn't at all prove their god, you will achieved what Japanese people have being doing since forever.
Not worrying what other people think goes along way to achieving this capability.
I tip my hat to you sir.
Ah, I see. Forgive me for my mis-conclusions.
True. But, that is not inline with what you originaly said about fear. Pride and fear do not directly corelate, though they can overlap. Also, i do not respect you enough to have manners for you. You earn my respect, then i treat you with manners. Also, I will not take orders from you either. Instead of DEMANDING that you stop, I'm only going to politly ask you to stop acting like a haughty, holier than thou prick.
When theists talk of the inerrancies of their books they seem to bolster their argument with senseless pride. (someone recently told me that some muslim scholar once said that the world one day will be filled only with muslims. To which I replied was complete bullshit as most muslims of one sect believe the other sect to be infidels so when they make a comment on everyone being muslim they obviously mean one particular sect.)
They need pride. what they lack is confidence. Their belief lies on the edge of a knife and so they bolster their ignorence with pride just so as to avoid looking at the truth straight in the face and tipping over.