As an atheist who does not believe in god, in heaven and in hell, do all of you value the importance of doing good deeds so good karma will come in your life?
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It's extremely important to believe in Karma but always from a logical point of view. If you do bad things, then bad things will eventually happen to you because most people retaliate when attacked in some way or another. But i believe people should want to do good things for others without fear of anything supernatural. And if they are only good because of fear of going to hell, then they are really not very good people at all.
I support the idea that karma is very real. The fact is that good deeds will make you happy, and bad deeds will haunt you even if there is no revenge directly from the victim. Your mind will make sure you pay for your mistakes, and no matter how evil a person is, their wrong doing will always haunt them.
But if you only do good things because you dont want to be punished by god, you are definitely a horrible person. The saying what goes around comes around is one of the most factual.
Some religious people are keeping themselves in a moral side because they are afraid of being punished by god and not because they really want to be moral. They don't realized that every time we do good we are giving ourselves a favor and not god.
An atheist has no reason to do good work. Atheism is not an ideology, it is a rejection of one. Humanism is the ideology that many atheists ascribe to. It has a moral basis that is relativistic and centers on making humanity better. While religions prepare for the next life, we try to make this life better for all of us.
I believe in karma. If you do good, something good will also happen to you. Whereas if you do something bad, something bad will also happen to you. Maybe not right away, but it will happen.
Also, I like the thought of paying it forward. It's good to do something nice to someone. It makes the world a better place.
Doing good so as to receive good isn't the right teaching as a Christian. Christ died for us all even without the expectant of anything in return. And to crown it all, he didn't even force us to accept Him has Lord and Saviour. Gave a matter of choice.
Actually, he does force you to accept him, because if you don't, god sends you to hell. That's not a choice, but an ultimatum, and there is no evidence that a Christ died for anything.
Bullshit. If there was a christ, (there wasn't), and he was a supernatural being (there is no such thing) than he didn't give his life. He transformed himself. AND he did it to secure the obedience of all of mankind. Holding eternal life and happiness ransom for that obedience. So don't hand me that crap about free choice. It's classic extortion plain and simple!
He doesn't force you to accept Him. If he does, some should have been brutally beaten to confess Him. Lol.
Actually he does, it is basically "accept Jesus or burn in hell"...
Wow how typically christian, resort to violence....great example of christianity!
Well guys, maybe it's not really Christ who forced us to believe in him. Maybe it's the bible and religion. The bible that was basically written by men, edited by men and interpreted by religious men.
if karma existed then that would mean some higher power has to exist. i don't believe in any higher power, so karma to me is a mere human creation.
On the other hand, if karma does exist as other believe it is, and if their is a higher power behind it, then who owns that power would be? The idea about the realm of God came back to the scenario. Most probably there is really a god.
I certainly don't believe in an imaginary tally or score the way many people refer to as Karma! That's as ridiculous as theism in my opinion - after all, exactly who is keeping score here?
However, I certainly *do* believe that every action has consequences beyond what normal human logic can predict. Therefore, we do not know how what we do effects the universe, but only that it effects the universe indefinitely. The thought bis that if we do good things, this will inspire other people to do good things, produce good consequences, and perpetuate the idea of good, etc. As a result, more good things will be around and we will consequently be the receiver of more of these good deeds and events. Bad things of course, would have the opposite effect. This is definitely apparent in most people's lives, and so karma of this type exists.
I agree. I don't hold that "what comes around goes around." However, the butterfly effect is actually a real thing. Meaning that for every action there is an equal reaction. So if that action is a good action somethng will happen, albeit it may be an opposite reaction.
Karma is a philosophy explained in the Bhagvad. It does not mean "As you sow so shall you reap". It is a concept that means that you are trapped in the cycle of birth and death and each life that you live is only to accomplish the task that you were assigned (It is presumed either you were assigned the task by god or yourself, don't ask me why because I don't know and the book didn't seem to specify) and that you will not escape this cycle unless you finish your karma (directly translated as work).
So what it basically implies is that do the best at the task assigned to you and do not look for the reward.
It is a good principle but thats about it. It does not explain who set this task on you etc.
I guess its just a way to get societies to do the best at whatever it is they do. It is not a religion just a philosophy within one.
There is no karma or anything like that. If there is, I challenge anyone to prove it.
In another culture it's called Protestant Work Ethic, where spiritual virtue was symbolized by good and diligent work
Whatever.
Man hallucinates deep within his own imaginings, drifts off to spiritually appropriated platitudes and conjures up impossible tasks for himself for a spiritual reward dangling just beyond his comprehension. Beyond primitive, it only remains a mark of his ignorance because it's common in most men. In the meantime, certain unscrupulous entrepreneurs exploit that weakness, turn it into surreal doctrines of conscription and reap the profits of mass fealty.
Remember that the concept of Karma is a monstrously unethical way to think about things. Imagine a child being beaten or raped. A strictly ethical person would say that this is a tragedy and that the perpetrator deserves to be stopped and 'corrected' (fill in those air quotes with what you will). A person who strictly buys into the Karma concept thinks that the child must have done something to deserve it, or will eventually, and that the person perpetrating the crimes shouldn't be punished because they'll get theirs eventually.
Slightly hyperbolic (only very slightly when you look at the way criminal acts are handled in more Karma-oriented parts of the world), but when you reduce it down to its base elements, which is the objectively more compassionate cognitive route to take? I'll stick with good 'ol ethics.