Does Atheism Need Religion?

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Dhomaila's picture
Does Atheism Need Religion?

The title question may seem odd for this type of forum; but the answer has always been, yes. Of course atheism depends on the religions of the world; and most theology understands that. Every now and then some religious group will send a person into one of these forums to stir things up. Once again we, and must include myself in this very sad observation, make them look good. If it were not for sex, condoms would have no purpose; and we are the condoms of the spiritual world.

In my post from yesterday, I present an absolutely certain way to end religion worldwide. You would have thought I was asking this forum to convert to the worship “wet toilet paper” or something equally strange. What the poor souls posting have accepted is “you’re fight for religion when you fight for atheism”; they are codependent. I offered a solution to this problem, and my offer will stand forever; because my solution is a form of mathematics. Just like algebra, geometry, and calculus before it, dilemmics is here to stay.

I’m not promoting myself… I’m promoting a powerful idea! Was Charles Darwin “self-promoting” with his book? Someone will always be first to do, think, and say anything; and that is called “originating”. I feel bad for some of you, there are some that will reply to this that can’t imagine a world without religion. My question is this, why did you become an atheist in the first place, if not for a world free of theology?

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CyberLN's picture
Why do you assume that all

Why do you assume that all those who identify as atheist want the eradication of religions? Show me the data that indicates that.

mykcob4's picture
Of all the condescending

Of all the condescending bullshit I have ever read, your post must be the worst.
1) You make assumptions that are simply not true "atheism needs religion", "You have an original idea", and "You are not selling or promoting something."
The first thing you have to understand is that "atheism" is a derogatory term made up by people that made up a god or gods. People are born atheist. You have to be brainwashed to become a believer/theist.
Next you have to realize is that the people of this forum are onto you and your bullshit. We've seen it all before. It isn't new or original. As if you are some world renown mathematician that has solved the ultimate question. You are not Stephen Hawking. You haven't discovered anything worthwhile.
People that you call atheist don't need religion, anymore than the world needs pollution. Religion is pollution. Your idea is pollution. We can all do without it. It exist so we deal with it best we can.
Your idea won't and cannot "end religion". All it does is offer a different religion, just as stupid, just as corrupt. Your idea is a theology just as scientology is a theology and just as wacky.
So don't blither about how you are misunderstood, or be so arrogant and put yourself in the same vain as Charles Darwin.
If you really have a revelation, put it to the test. Submit it to be scrutinized by expert independent means. Don't come on forums such as these and promote an untested theory and claim it is worthy for consideration. Just because you have a blog website doesn't give you any credibility. People think that because they are published that they have something real. They don't and neither do you.
You're nothing but a self promoting troll. I really think that you are insane. You need psychological help...get it! Do us all a favor, get lost.

ThePragmatic's picture
As an anti-theist, I like

As an anti-theist, I like your initiative, but it is both ignorant and arrogant (no offense intended).

I too thought that I "understood it all" and had "the solution to religion", at one point. How foolish I was.

Even if your idea is fantastic enough to be compared to Darwin's idea about evolution, you can't just present it to people who want to believe, who perhaps feel a need to believe, who will only reject that idea.

mykcob4's picture
He's a sock puppet nothing

He's a sock puppet nothing more.

Nyarlathotep's picture
Dhomaila - "because my

Dhomaila - "because my solution is a form of mathematics. Just like algebra, geometry, and calculus before it, dilemmics is here to stay."

Still waiting for some sample.

solidzaku's picture
I'm going to skip over what

I'm going to skip over what seems to be a toxic and inflammatory OP and address the question to hopefully salvage a meaningful discussion out of the lot of it. Does atheism need religion? I'm inclined to say that it does. For another example, one can't claim to be asexual without an understanding and ability to perform sexual functions.

mykcob4's picture
I'll tell you why you are

I'll tell you why you are wrong. Atheist don't need religion. Only the term atheism needs religion to exist. If you look at atheist, they are the normal and natural state of logical people. You are born an atheist. You have to be altered, essentially brainwashed to be a theist. Therefore only the term atheist exist because of this brainwashing. It describes people that have not allowed themselves to be brainwashed.

solidzaku's picture
I'm guessing you put the

I'm guessing you put the disagree on my post, which I can't understand, considering we both said and agree on the exact same thing. I never said atheists need religion, just the term.

chimp3's picture
Dhomaila : "I’m not promoting

Dhomaila : "I’m not promoting myself… I’m promoting a powerful idea! Was Charles Darwin “self-promoting” with his book? Someone will always be first to do, think, and say anything; and that is called “originating”."

Now he compares himself to Darwin! Darwin was did not originate the concept of evolution. He was in a hot race with Alfred Russell Wallace to publish first. The truth of evolution was becoming apparent with the mass of evidence available. Some one else would have found it if Darwin or Wallace did not.

doubleAtheist's picture
Atheism by definition needs

Atheism by definition needs religion, for without religion the word atheist would not arrise, stricltly vocab based here..

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